• marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]
    hexbear
    207
    11 months ago

    There's something extremely funny about the president of the US looking at what's going on China and saying out loud, "Their economy is a ticking time bomb." This is almost an onion news story.

    • immuredanchorite [he/him, any]
      hexbear
      96
      edit-2
      11 months ago

      dem

      Listen, Fat! The US economy is doing better than any economy has every done in history, Jack. I call it Bidenomics. Get with the program.

      biden-nibble biden-rember biden-point DaBiden

    • @CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml
      hexbear
      23
      11 months ago

      Omfg you people really spam every China related thread on our site huh? Forcing us to endure seeing your annoying asses at every corner, is there no way to block every hexbear user?

      • Flinch [he/him]
        hexbear
        119
        11 months ago

        wojak-nooo why won't you damn tankies let us lie about China??? STOP IT!! MODS!!!

      • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
        hexbear
        96
        11 months ago

        what do you mean, "you people"?

        and that annoyance you feel is nothing compared to the capitalist propaganda you've been swimming in your whole life.

        glasses-on

            • @CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml
              hexbear
              6
              11 months ago

              How is it homophobia? I would've said the same thing for anyone of any pronoun tags. What makes you so sure I might not be LGBT?

              • ZapataCadabra [he/him]
                hexbear
                92
                11 months ago

                Telling someone they suck a man's dick as an insult is pretty basic homophobia. Unless you meant it as a compliment, then by all means I hope xigma-male gets his knob schlobbed for all his hard work.

              • Frank [he/him, he/him]
                hexbear
                29
                11 months ago

                yeah because there aren't any homophobic queer people. that'd never happen.

          • StalinForTime [comrade/them]
            hexbear
            72
            edit-2
            11 months ago

            Your tone is that of a teenager and I suspect you do not know how to define state capitalist, or alternatively you don't know as much as you think about the Chinese economy.

          • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]
            hexbear
            70
            11 months ago

            you've made it extremely clear that you don't read, but I'm going to leave a link here for fun anyway

            https://redsails.org/losurdo-on-china/

          • emizeko [they/them]
            hexbear
            60
            11 months ago

            you say that, but have you considered that pee pee poo poo?

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
            hexbear
            37
            11 months ago

            What is it with the homophobia and misogyny? Do you understand that using deepthroating is accusing someone of being the receptive participant in the sex act, and that cultural norms expect that person to either be a woman or a gay man? Do you understand that you're trying to insult someone by accusing them of being a woman or a gay man engaged in a sexual act that you apparently find to be demeaning or shameful? I mean, like, okay, Catholic, so hating queer people and women should be assumed, but are you actually aware you're doing it or is it just a reflex?

          • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
            hexbear
            27
            11 months ago

            the state is more answerable to the people than a non-state capitalist is.

            It wouldn't be my first choice but it would be an improvement.

          • temptest [any]
            hexbear
            104
            11 months ago

            What makes it spam? We're invited to lemmy.ml, it shows up on our homepage the same as it does yours (probably even higher because instances more likely to downvote or ignore political posts don't link with us atm).

            If you meant flooding, it's not that either. We're a big instance (1k users weekly) with a general interest in politics and a historical anti-lurking culture, so we'll be disproportionately active in political threads compared to a general instance like lemmy.ml, just like programming.dev is in tech threads. Are we meant to just not share an opinion because too many other people in the same instance already posted their (different) opinion?

            • @HornyOnMain
              hexbear
              41
              11 months ago

              Ngl the anti lurking culture of hexbear has been so good for us being able to fucking bully libs coming in despite there maybe being a "silent majority" of ex-reddit libs who probably outnumber us but never post

              • Frank [he/him, he/him]
                hexbear
                29
                11 months ago

                Back on Reddit we were like the third most active sub in sheer posting velocity after I think the NBA sub with 2.3 million members. They couldn't keep us off the front page without fucking with the algo. It's one of the main reasons they quarantined us.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
            hexbear
            91
            11 months ago

            You can just make your own instance where only people with brains as smooth as bowling balls are allowed and defederate with the rest of us. I guarantee you that everyone will be much happier.

      • MattsAlt [comrade/them]
        hexbear
        84
        11 months ago

        Time for you to go make friends with the fascists and shitlibs who share your opinions I guess

          • MattsAlt [comrade/them]
            hexbear
            102
            11 months ago

            You're such a redditor

            It's also kinda hard to have 99% of people dislike China if 18% of the global population lives there and is very satisfied with their government, not even counting anyone in Russia, other parts of Asia and the Pacific, Central and South America, or Africa.

            You're really showing whose opinions you actually care about. A bunch of propagandized to the brim, comfortable Americans, Canadians, and Europeans

          • CloutAtlas [he/him]
            hexbear
            97
            11 months ago

            That's ridiculous since the Chinese like China and we're 18% of all humans.

            Here's an article about Americans getting salty that views on China in South America are largely positive as opposed to sub 50% approval rating in English speaking countries.

            Here's Voice of America saying the same thing about Africa and how Africans see China.

            Your opinions on China is not only in the minority, it's a waning minority. Those are western sources I used in case you wanted to cry propaganda.

            • BeamBrain [he/him]
              hexbear
              90
              11 months ago

              CatholicSocialist's criteria for who counts as people: us-foreign-policy

          • ZapataCadabra [he/him]
            hexbear
            86
            11 months ago

            Go read about BRI infrastructure projects in Africa and Asia. The global south is generally very positive about Chinese politics because Chinese give them hospitals and roads and ports.

              • machiabelly [she/her]
                hexbear
                89
                11 months ago

                lmao this is so dumb. Every campaign promise in every democracy is a bribe then?

              • BeamBrain [he/him]
                hexbear
                87
                11 months ago

                Maybe the US should try bribing people instead of bombing them

              • MattsAlt [comrade/them]
                hexbear
                82
                11 months ago

                You live in the US, how are you not being bribed to think the way you do?

                • Frank [he/him, he/him]
                  hexbear
                  22
                  11 months ago

                  In fairness the statement is consistent. The US government does it's damndest to do nothing what so ever for the citizens of the us.

              • NoGodsNoMasters [they/them, she/her]
                hexbear
                72
                11 months ago

                Maybe the US should start "bribing" with infrastructure projects then, I thought they were all about their soft power or whatever

                • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
                  hexbear
                  52
                  edit-2
                  11 months ago

                  You know the US is upstanding because it won't even bribe its own citizens by giving them anything that would improve their lives no matter how hard they vote. True democracy!

              • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
                hexbear
                59
                edit-2
                11 months ago

                China helped other counties improve the material conditions of their people bribed the dumb dark folk.

              • GarbageShoot [he/him]
                hexbear
                57
                11 months ago

                "I only want a government that doesn't do good things for me!"

              • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
                hexbear
                42
                11 months ago

                The nefarious Chinese are tricking people into supporting them by checks notes improving their material conditions.

                Thank God I live in America where I'll never have to worry about the government doing that.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
            hexbear
            73
            11 months ago

            In the real world 99% of people in US think about where their next meal is going to come from instead of perseverating about China the way you're doing kid.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
            hexbear
            28
            11 months ago

            I think you'd be shocked to find out that most of the world thinks very highly of China and it's accomplishments and foreign policy. Though you like meant only to refer to Americans, which is understandable given your lamentable biases.

      • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
        hexbear
        50
        edit-2
        11 months ago

        Excuse me, I'm here to show my support for Comrade Joe

        biden-leftist

        it just so happens to also be a China thread

        p.s.

        You can probably block entire instances using one of the 3pa

      • @psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de
        hexbear
        37
        edit-2
        11 months ago

        Dude, take a break!

        I mean I completely disagree with you, but this thread can't be healthy for you. What purpose is it serving to get enraged here?

        I'd say take a breather and if you dare: ask yourself how reliable your impression of China really is, maybe research some older claims that have been proven to be misrepresented or false, like this for example. Not saying you have to become a fan, but there seems to be a propaganda effort to prepare the public for a economic/military war with China. So more people need to be sceptical.

        You seem to haven't accepted it yet, but the capitalist class, through the means of communication they control, construct most impressions you have of foreign countries (without them being able to interject) and facts are negligable as they have been in the news-medias support of every US war effort in history as well.

        I got a little carried away, but I meant it in good faith, you decided to wear a badge of socialism after all.

        What you do is obviously up to you!

      • @Fuckass
        hexbear
        23
        edit-2
        10 months ago

        deleted by creator

      • m-p{3}@lemmy.ca
        hexbear
        5
        11 months ago

        At least on mobile apps you can block an entire instance, hopefully that's a feature we'll see on Lemmy itself one day.

      • @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
        hexbear
        2
        11 months ago

        Just keep dropping this link on the hexbears whenever you can:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre

        They're either clueless teenagers that only know the things they've learned from TikTok or working for whatever the Chinese equivalent of glavset is. Either way, they tend to make themselves scarce when that link is dropped on them.

        • JohnBrownsBussy2 [he/him]
          hexbear
          62
          11 months ago

          OOOH. A link to wikipedia. The forbidden knowledge!

          porky-scared porky-scared-flipped

          It's so scarey.

          But on the other hand, the tanks didn't even run over that guy (CW): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6F2AqzdXuI&pp=ygUhdXMgcG9saWNlIHJ1bm5pbmcgb3ZlciBwcm90ZXN0b3Jz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-W-7WPWfE4&t=18s https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L-pJTOzyEkI

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
            hexbear
            21
            11 months ago

            Technically, Tank man ran over the Tank. Easy to see how people got that turned around.

        • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
          hexbear
          59
          11 months ago

          Why would we make ourselves scarce when some one drops a link to the wikipedia article on Tiananmen Square?

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
          hexbear
          54
          11 months ago

          Imagine thinking the most Redditor-ass reply of linking to Wikipedia of all places on a topic they are already familiar with is useful. Do you believe the Reddit myth about wumaos being shot whenever they see the phrase "Tiananmen Square Massacre" is true?

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
            hexbear
            22
            11 months ago

            Oh no my kill-switch has been activated! Tell my family in the re-education camps I love them! /cyberpunk brain asplode noises

        • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
          hexbear
          43
          11 months ago

          Either way, they tend to make themselves scarce when that link is dropped on them.

          This is either a bit or a masochist lol, just straight up inviting the dogpile.

          • @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
            hexbear
            2
            11 months ago

            Yeah I get like 50 responses to my comments everyday... been reported as a bot multiple times. Given their tactics, my suspicion is the hexbear is a 50 cent army hive, but haven't confirmed this yet. Could be just kids that spent too much time on TikTok that don't know how terrible the PRC is. Or a mix of both. But likely just 50 cent army.

            But meh, if it's wasting more of their time than mine, we're winning.

            • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
              hexbear
              37
              11 months ago

              But likely just 50 cent army.

              Sorry, but I'm actually not allowed to get paid for my China posts because of a noncompete clause I signed from when George Soros hired me as a crisis actor. I'm not allowed to be a paid actor in any other conspiracy theories right now, so I'm just defending China pro-bono to keep my posting skills sharp so I can try to get on as a wumao once my contract is up.

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]
              hexbear
              29
              11 months ago

              Sir please keep the good name of Mr. Cent out of your Liberal mouth. .50 Cent got shot 9 times and recovered to be both a great rapper and the protagonist of a really bad X-box shooter. You accomplishments pale in comparison with his career.

              'Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.'

              I hope you're having as much fun as we are!

        • booty [he/him]
          hexbear
          39
          11 months ago

          this is one of the dumbest posts of all time. it should be in a museum

        • Mindfury [he/him]
          hexbear
          37
          11 months ago

          oh no, that link appears to have broken my internet!

          now my web browser can only take me to this page: https://newint.org/features/2021/12/07/feature-how-british-colonizers-caused-bengal-famine

          • @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
            hexbear
            2
            11 months ago

            Sure more past grievances from fascist hexbear. Yeah yeah the British were horrible colonizers. I can say that where I live.

            But how about we discuss how you feel about the Tiananmen Square massacre. But of course you can't because you're afraid of the repercussions of discussing it even today, don't you?

            • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
              hexbear
              36
              11 months ago

              You know they teach about it in China, right? You're so far up your own ass you're just telling stories about stories you've been told and none of them have anything to do with reality.

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]
              hexbear
              31
              11 months ago

              I feel sort of a warm, minty sensation. I really appreciate the students willingness to boldly confront the Deng government to voice their opposition to the imposition of liberal market economics, and I'm sympathetic to their position that social conservativism and a very restrictive public culture was not in line with communist practice. It also demonstrates the delicate balance of power between the party and the people.

            • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
              hexbear
              24
              11 months ago

              Tiananmen Square? That was thirty years ago, why are you bringing up past greivances like a fascist? Kind of sus to me dude

              • @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
                hexbear
                1
                11 months ago

                The chilling effects of that massacre exist in China to this day. It's something that's blocked by their nationwide firewall and people refuse to discuss it out of fear of having some trouble with the authorities.

            • CloutAtlas [he/him]
              hexbear
              14
              11 months ago

              I do love how you keep playing to Tiananmen Square card like it's all 5 pieces of Exodia against Hexbears (supposedly) and it repeatedly has no effect.

              The times in your past where it's worked, it may have been with teenagers that support China to be edgy.

              We're educated who understand China's faults and side with China over US/UK/Can anyway. But you simply can't comprehend people that think China's positives outweight it's negatives without them being paid 50 cents a post.

        • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
          hexbear
          37
          11 months ago

          Either way, they tend to make themselves scarce when that link is dropped on them.

          looks down-thread

          dont-laugh

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
          hexbear
          31
          11 months ago

          Why? We all know that about 300 people, mostly pla soldiers and insurgents, were killed in fighting blocks away from the square, while all the students in the square evacuated peacefully after the pla issued a final ultimatum.

  • @gnuhaut@lemmy.ml
    hexbear
    138
    11 months ago

    Yeah yeah, I've heard that before. There's a whole cottage industry of "experts" that have predicted the imminent collapse of China going back decades. Call me when it actually happens.

    • @ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
      hexbear
      33
      11 months ago

      China's economy is stacked like a house of cards and could come crumbling down due to some unforeseen global financial shock, but then again that sounds like most modern economies. I think people just pick on China because, instead of having a group of billionaires stack up the cards, the government does it themselves.

      • somename [she/her]
        hexbear
        98
        11 months ago

        Even if that shock happens, China will still be in a better situation. Like, they actually manufacture stuff there, and the government builds infrastructure aggressively. That’s two massive benefits to economic security and health.

        • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
          hexbear
          29
          11 months ago

          But what if all that high speed rail disappears, huh? Didn't think about that, stupid tankie.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
            hexbear
            16
            11 months ago

            It's a legitimate risk. Rail theft by the mole-people is up 12% in the last quarter.

      • @robot
        hexbear
        80
        edit-2
        11 months ago

        deleted by creator

      • spectre [he/him]
        hexbear
        58
        11 months ago

        The Chinese government stacks the cards though it actually has the capability to use some toothpicks to hold them in place, and will immediately rebuild it things start to fall apart.

        To contrast, the US will flounder and pull their one "low interest rates" lever while having a political blowout over some sort of stimulus funding package that probably won't pass.

      • ThomasMuentzner [he/him, comrade/them]
        hexbear
        37
        11 months ago

        Do you repeat something you heard there or can you in detail describe how the worlds greates manufacturing Hub is a economy build on Cards...

          • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
            hexbear
            6
            11 months ago

            Show

            This is what China wanted their relationship with the US to be like but our ruling class is just too evil and shortsighted for that

      • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
        hexbear
        26
        11 months ago

        If that's the case then the US's economy is a card dealer pointing a gun at everyone at the table

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
        hexbear
        19
        11 months ago

        Well, actually it's because China's roaring economic success is both deeply embarassing and existentially dangerous to international fascism and it is absolutely vital that they both discredit China and prevent their thoroughly indoctrinated population from learning anything about China at all costs.

  • Awoo [she/her]
    hexbear
    129
    11 months ago

    If you think China's economy is a time bomb wait til you hear about what it means when the dollar is no longer the reserve currency around the world.

  • Grebgreb [he/him]
    hexbear
    119
    11 months ago

    The country that leads the world in mass shootings shouldn't be labeling other countries as "ticking time bombs."

  • Flinch [he/him]
    hexbear
    111
    edit-2
    11 months ago

    Man leading country with the largest homeless population in the world says country which eliminated extreme poverty within its borders is about to collapse, of course this is true and should be taken seriously very-intelligent

  • Parsani [love/loves, comrade/them]
    hexbear
    107
    11 months ago

    The old federation is dying, the new one struggles to be born. Now is the time of unlimited China struggle sessions.

  • btbt [he/him]
    hexbear
    92
    edit-2
    11 months ago

    biden-troll Don’t worry about having to work 30 hours a day at the sisyphean torture factory to be able to afford your ten square foot apartment Jack, look at what’s going on in China! A sexpat YouTuber who got kicked out of the country says their economy will collapse any minute now! Don’t trust any of the actual data on China’s economy, you can’t fall for those [REDACTED] and their tricks, Jack! They’re weak even though we say they’re strong! THEY’RE WEAK EVEN THOUGH WE SAY THEY’RE STRONG!

  • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
    hexbear
    88
    edit-2
    11 months ago

    Me upvoting a comment and when it refreshes, seeing it's been upvoted 8 times since I navigated to the page sicko-pog

  • Flaps [he/him]
    hexbear
    88
    11 months ago

    Well ima call the US a ticking timebomb, how about that Jack biden-alert

  • Grownbravy [they/them]
    hexbear
    87
    11 months ago

    What troubles?

    Can you describe the troubles?

    Are the troubles in the room with us?