https://xcancel.com/GoodVibePolitik/status/1817645502458171556
It's crazy how Rosa had so much beef with Lenin, considering they were both posters at heart.
Doing the Aristocrats joke, but with this as the punchline
I'm beginning to think the media blitz for Kamala has nothing to do with her or the Dems winning the presidency and just more of what they genuinely do best: completely destroying any semblance of a leftist movement
Hey, that's not fair
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There's also the macarena and whip and nay-nays
I've never been to a DSA meeting but I am increasingly interested in spending the hour to get into town to go to one, just to observe the libs in their natural habitat
I occasionally hear about local chapters like this, and I have to wonder what the benefit is of an ML local paying dues to an explicitly anticommunist org that can expel members for being openly ML. The local obviously isn't changing DSA, and DSA would never willingly help the local.
But there’s potential utility in having a more radical caucus within a less radical organization. Used correctly it can act as the teeth or spearhead that utilizes the size of the org to achieve more radical ends than the org itself cares about.
I think this can be true, but it’s predicated on a radical caucus successfully using the resources of the broader org to deliver measurable material results that are greater than those that could be delivered on their own with the same time, effort, and resources. If they can’t show that, then they’re not using the org, the org is using them. DSA’s rule against democratic centralism was explicitly made to prevent that from happening.
At the national level, I can’t point to anything of significance that “radical caucuses” have achieved within national DSA apart from influencing certain Democrat primary endorsements in 2016 and 2020. Those endorsed Democrats have broadly continued to betray the people of Palestine, for the same reasons DSA has, at the first sign of conflict with the broader liberal democratic system they’re nominally trying to “move left”.
I guess I could see a local tactical argument for forming or co-opting a DSA local if national is handing you more money from all the liberal paper DSA members than your local org is putting into it, but the nature of DSA will still preclude you from putting that money toward revolutionary ends. Best case scenario you can shift the balance of that money more towards local charity and less toward Democrats, but it’s still not necessarily clear to me that would be more effective than just directly donating or volunteering at a liberal charity org. Neither is going to build revolutionary power, but at least the latter directly results in some material improvement in individual human lives.
I don't think this is a fair characterization- there are open MLs serving on the national political committee, including one cochair.
It’s not a matter of characterization that DSA’s founders were explicitly anticommunist, and that the bylaws still have practicing democratic centralism as an expellable offense.
Oh, yeah, I agree it was founded as explicitly anticommunist. Those folks are in northstar, a tiny caucus that people don't take seriously. You're allowed to practice demcent, you're just not allow to explicitly say you're demcent. You can even explicitly say "We are doing this thing (demcent)" so long as you don't use the magic words "democratic centralist"
If the MLs tried to form their own group it'd just be another random book club communist party of 20 nebbish weirdos who get fucked with by the FBI constantly till some LaRouche-esk dude takes over.
maybe, but the alternative suggests that paying dues to a liberal anticommunist org protects them from federal attention. as an organization dedicated to collectively advancing proletarian class politics, ineffectiveness is the only surefire protection from federal attention.
but the alternative suggests that paying dues to a liberal anticommunist org protects them from federal attention
I mean I think that's the basic idea, by squatting in a liberal group the Feds don't pay them as much attention and they can do organizing in the background. Idk how effective it is though.
I mean really there can't be a communist movement in the imperial core so all this is moot.
If I were crazy, could I post badly for 9 hours daily? HUH?
Cue the line from Alice in Wonderland about how if we weren't mad we wouldn't be here.
What is its current exchange value?
How much for a linen coat?
Do not go into a DSA local meeting expecting libs. For leftists its the only org in town. The divide between locals and the NPC is very stark.
Yeah i've long heard the local parties are more radical than national, and that the dsa international caucus or whatever it's called better represents the party than the npc.
Yes but the DSA is legally not a party. Its kind of a big deal that they are not a party.
Firstly, it is not true that fascism is only the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie. Fascism is not only a military-technical category. Fascism is the bourgeoisie’s fighting organisation that relies on the active support of Social-Democracy. Social-Democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism. There is no ground for assuming that the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of Social-Democracy. There is just as little ground for thinking that Social-Democracy can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie. These organisations do not negate, but supplement each other.
J. V. Stalin, Concerning the International SituationI left the org because my chapter gutted this resolution and I seriously considered rejoining if this had passed as written but I guess that's not happening.
As a DSA member is there anything I could do to protest this?
If you're heavily involved join Red Star or MUG. If not at least reach out to them and ask how you can help their efforts.
Alternatively quit the org and join a better one.
I don't know what to make of it but here's at least another tweet I stumbled upon while reading that thread.
https://xcancel.com/aaronnarraph/status/1817673054790553892#m
This is cope afaik, because they took out all the stuff that would allow actually enforcing an anti-Zionist line
Finally some complacent leftists.
