Tesla 'Full Self-driving' was on during fatal crash with motorcyclist, police says
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Tesla’s ‘Full Self-driving’ features were reportedly on during a previously reported fatal crash with a motorcyclist, according to the police....
  • SkolShakedown [he/him, any]
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    3 months ago

    he admitted to being on his phone? manslaughter aside, he needs to be in prison because he's too stupid to be allowed back in society.

    • MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml
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      3 months ago

      We really need to develop a coherent set of positions on criminal justice at some point. It's an enormous, everyday issue, and there's this constant ping ponging between "we need to abolish prisons now" and "obviously this serious crime deserves prison time at minimum."

      It's of course not always the same people making the two comments, but as a group, leftists are all over the map.

        • MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml
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          3 months ago

          The issues with re-education are:

          1. If you're keeping someone in custody during it, it's prison, even if it's a nice prison.
          2. If you aren't keeping them in custody, and they don't show up, how do you get them to?
          3. Ordinary people commit heinous crimes, too, see this article.
          • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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            3 months ago

            There's plenty of little social and bureaucratic annoyances that can be levied on someone until they show up. Don't go to re-education? You're not allowed to buy liquor till you do, or you're suspended from hookup apps, or your money's no good at festivals and sports events. Non-carceral, non-fine penalties that are still enough of a social annoyance to be worth biting the bullet and taking care of.

      • Runcible [none/use name]
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        3 months ago

        It is hard to thread the needle between recognizing "retributive justice" is generally just morally wrong and the idea that systemically you probably need some sort of negative consequences available to help shape societal behaviors

      • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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        3 months ago

        Here’s my position

        • Using “self driving cars” = prison
        • texting while driving = prison
        • intoxicated while driving = prison
        • buying trucks and SUVs without the need = prison
        • MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml
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          3 months ago

          Prison abolition isn't "prison is bad," it's "prison should be abolished." Even in the most generous reading, it's "prison should be used as an absolute last resort," which means wildly different things to different people.

          All I'm saying is we should develop a coherent position on such a common issue.

          • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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            3 months ago

            In the same way that it will take time to advance society to a moneyless classless one, I can imagine that full prison abolition would take societal structures to be developed before it is fully realized.

        • booty [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          you know what libs think the criminal justice system in the DRPK is like? yeah we're gonna make that look like some weak shit. im gonna imprison your unborn great-grandchildren mfer just you wait

      • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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        3 months ago

        The driver is 56yo so his parents are likely already dead unless you mean someone else lol.

        • booty [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          I would not just assume someone most likely in their 70s is dead. It's not extraordinarily unlikely but it's certainly not a given