That shows how low the bar is for him with libs. He spent more time defending his son, talking about how pro-cop he is, the suburbs and trying to appeal to Republicans.
He actually did a decent job not falling into the "Oh yeah, pal? I'm more law and order than you!" trap.
What he said was that most cops are decent people, that they don't want to kill innocent people, and that bad apples should be brought to justice. The first two points are bullshit, but libs will nod along with them. The last point is something everyone but Blue Lives Matter fascists should agree with (even if they disagree on what constitutes a bad apple). He also didn't back away from the "fundamentally reshaping policing" line and even went into a little detail on what that might look like.
Of course none of what he says will happen because him just saying it doesn't mean he believes it, but from a retail politics "who won the debate?" framework he was surprisingly competent there.
Of course none of what he says will happen because him just saying it doesn’t mean he believes it, but from a retail politics “who won the debate?” framework he was surprisingly competent there.
He was getting destroyed by Trump all night long who was even attacking him from the left. This is the author of the 1994 crime bill. No one except libs believe he really is going to do anything about police brutality. Trump made him look like the senile old moron he really is.
Biden is the antifa communist revolutionary author of the 1994 crime bill, who hates police & is extremely racist, but will also lose the radical left because he's too much of a law-and-order guy who is controlled by Bernie Sanders.
Exactly. Your average swing voter couldn't give less of fuck about the 1994 crime bill, and I'd bet more than half of the electorate lack the context to even understand why it was a bad thing, much less see it as a reason to not vote for Biden.
What base? I don't see any signs for Biden out in real life or know anyone who wants to vote for him. The only people into him I see, are libs online and they don't really count. On the other hand, I see far more support for Trump this time around than I did in all of 2016. Biden don't have much of base. Clinton at least had her cult followers back in 2016.
Biden will get 100 million votes or about however much Hillary got. That's his base.
What you're talking about is voter enthusiasm. Biden lacks it, and it's usually important (although it might be less important now, see "vote blue no matter who"), but lacking it doesn't mean you don't have a base.
Lol Trump destroyed him for sure. Tomorrow at work, that's all I will hear about from my coworkers. They already talk about how much Biden sucks, but that just solidified it.
imo he fucked it up, especially early on in the debate.
this isnt about convincing undecideds. there are almost no people in america torn between trump and biden. there are people torn between voting for one of them or not voting at all. who did biden inspire to come out?
he really didn't. trump controlled the entire narrative of the debate. biden definitely was better the second half of the debate than the first, for sure, but biden didnt really hit trump on anything.
Bad take, Biden won the debate by virtue of the fact that he didn't totally fuck it up.
That shows how low the bar is for him with libs. He spent more time defending his son, talking about how pro-cop he is, the suburbs and trying to appeal to Republicans.
He actually did a decent job not falling into the "Oh yeah, pal? I'm more law and order than you!" trap.
What he said was that most cops are decent people, that they don't want to kill innocent people, and that bad apples should be brought to justice. The first two points are bullshit, but libs will nod along with them. The last point is something everyone but Blue Lives Matter fascists should agree with (even if they disagree on what constitutes a bad apple). He also didn't back away from the "fundamentally reshaping policing" line and even went into a little detail on what that might look like.
Of course none of what he says will happen because him just saying it doesn't mean he believes it, but from a retail politics "who won the debate?" framework he was surprisingly competent there.
He was getting destroyed by Trump all night long who was even attacking him from the left. This is the author of the 1994 crime bill. No one except libs believe he really is going to do anything about police brutality. Trump made him look like the senile old moron he really is.
Biden is the antifa communist revolutionary author of the 1994 crime bill, who hates police & is extremely racist, but will also lose the radical left because he's too much of a law-and-order guy who is controlled by Bernie Sanders.
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Undecideds don’t give a rats ass about a three decade old crime bill. Not everyone is a online weirdo.
Exactly. Your average swing voter couldn't give less of fuck about the 1994 crime bill, and I'd bet more than half of the electorate lack the context to even understand why it was a bad thing, much less see it as a reason to not vote for Biden.
More than half of the electorate is unable to vote because of that bill, more like.
And who is Biden’s base?
What base? I don't see any signs for Biden out in real life or know anyone who wants to vote for him. The only people into him I see, are libs online and they don't really count. On the other hand, I see far more support for Trump this time around than I did in all of 2016. Biden don't have much of base. Clinton at least had her cult followers back in 2016.
Biden will get 100 million votes or about however much Hillary got. That's his base.
What you're talking about is voter enthusiasm. Biden lacks it, and it's usually important (although it might be less important now, see "vote blue no matter who"), but lacking it doesn't mean you don't have a base.
Vote Blue No Matter Who has been a thing for decades.
You must live in a bubble, I live in south Carolina, and I see plenty of Biden signs everywhere
Nah it's that Trump set the expectations for Biden so low that all he needed to do was not look like he had dementia.
Donald Trump fell for the old "Donald Trump" strategy. Classic blunder.
Lol Trump destroyed him for sure. Tomorrow at work, that's all I will hear about from my coworkers. They already talk about how much Biden sucks, but that just solidified it.
Thank god I don’t have brain dead chud coworkers.
Even my Trump supporting work acquaintances in the group chat thought Trump did really poorly tonight
I really don't think this changed anything.
https://twitter.com/SeanMcCarthyCom/status/1311145428180766720?s=19
If they weren't thinking about voting for Biden before the debate it's not that big of a deal
imo he fucked it up, especially early on in the debate.
this isnt about convincing undecideds. there are almost no people in america torn between trump and biden. there are people torn between voting for one of them or not voting at all. who did biden inspire to come out?
I mostly just think nothing changed, the people who weren't going to vote for Bidens minds were never going to be changed.
he really didn't. trump controlled the entire narrative of the debate. biden definitely was better the second half of the debate than the first, for sure, but biden didnt really hit trump on anything.