there doesn't seem to be much written about this topic: https://www.google.com/search?q="bourgeois"+"harry+potter"+"twilight"+"50+shades+of+grey"

Idealist Hegelians believe that dialectics lead to positive outcomes, but negative dialectics are also real. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_Dialectics

  • redthebaron [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    i am gonna argue here that the scene where the vampires play baseball in twillight is really funny

    • DPMotion [any]
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      4 years ago

      It's actually just a derivative of the many anime baseball filler episodes and I won't stand by and watch this erasure of Goku going Super Saiyan to hit a homerun thrown by Vegeta.

          • redthebaron [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            like it is south korea and japan the two countries that really like baseball that are not america so yeah

            • emizeko [they/them]
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              4 years ago

              wouldn't Cuba, Dominican Republic, Venezuela qualify?

              • KoeRhee [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Puerto Rico as well, though they aren't functionally independent.

                • redthebaron [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  My stance on puerto rico is pretty much “they are americans like no matter what the mainlanders think they are”

              • redthebaron [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                like i really did not remember them but like cuba makes sense because they are close to america and they were kinda of a puppet state before the revolucion, dominican republican was taken over by america also DO VENEZUELANS LIKE BASEBALL NEVER HEARD OF THIS i know they like all the south americans are really proud of their national soccer team

                • emizeko [they/them]
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                  4 years ago

                  I'm not that sure about Venezuela, but I remember a decent number of Venezuelan MLB players and seeing Hugo Chávez in a baseball uniform

                  • redthebaron [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    I just read about chaves wanting to become a Pro baseball player and wow dudes do really rock

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    4 years ago

    I read Twilight back in the day to see what the kids were up to. I've forgotten a lot of it, but there was so much wrong with those books. I had a full soapbox speech about all the weird shit in those books. I think my favorite thing was people going: "but it's a clean romance for teens because there's no sex!" Me: "A man creeps in a window. A young woman in a virginal white nightgown is innocently sleeping in her bed. The man looms over her. He penetrates her. A drop of blood is left on the white sheets. Now, what does that resemble?" I didn't realize that there was a connection to Harry Potter though. An even more cursed product than I realized. yay.

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      4 years ago

      My favorite part is how Edward likes Bella because he can't read her mind and she smells delicious to him. WTF

      • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Yes, how romantic! I just remembered another crazy thing--an ex-Mormon put together a website going into all the weird Mormon shit in the books, and it was wild, and really funny.

          • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            I took a little look and I didn't see it, but bear in mind this was more than a decade ago, so my memory is hazy. I do remember her retelling the story with the aide of cat pictures, and they were hilariously in character. The one for Edward was all sparkly, the one for Bella looked dumb and boring, etc. Sorry I couldn't find it for you. But if you search for Twilight and Mormonism, it turns out that people have written a ton about it. So if you're curious, there were a bunch of articles to read. They may not be funny though.

      • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        That's the whole history of the vampire bite thing in pop culture. The vampire bite has always been sublimated sex. There's a lot of literature about it, I'm not breaking new ground here. Vampires are pretty much just symbols of dangerous sexuality, with the "rape" scene sublimated to something you can show on TV. There's also some interesting work on vampires and homosexuality, particularly female vampires as symbols of dangerous female sexuality. So anyway, whenever someone was like, "the vampire books are clean," it made me go "vampires in pop culture are avatars for dangerous sexuality, what are you talking about?"

          • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            Stephanie Meyer framed herself as a nice Mormon lady who wrote some clean books for nice girls, when she just sublimated the sex to something else, so she could have all of the horniness without any of the guilt. I don't have a problem with the teen readers, it's age-appropriate to be ready for some horniness without going all the way--but Stephanie Meyer comes across as a very stunted individual, or at least that's what I thought back then. It's been a while since I thought about her or her work.

  • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    we need a romatic story about 2 co workers falling in love and killing their shitty boss