biden will win, the budding leftist movement that built up throughout the trump era will die overnight, neoliberalism will reign triumphant again and all socialists will be shunned again for another generation; Biden, Obama, and Hillary will be hailed as the greatest American heroes of our time; libs will instantly stop caring about kids in cages, imperialism, class politics etc. The overwhelming narrative will be that Trump was just a aberration and that Biden saved American democracy

    • GrouchoMarxist [comrade/them,use name]
      ·
      4 years ago

      My bad, I forgot how for 8 continuous years, not a single person in America turned away from capitalism, no mutual aid was done, no unions were formed, and every American loved the housing crisis

      • wombat [none/use name]
        7·
        4 years ago

        you're right, the left was utterly ineffectual during the Obama years because Team Blue was in office

        • GrouchoMarxist [comrade/them,use name]
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          4 years ago

          You got me. Every american actually loved Obama and was super happy for 8 years, which is why Trump's 'fuck Obama and everything he did' platform did terribly

          • wombat [none/use name]
            6·
            4 years ago

            the American "left" didn't vote for Trump, it voted for Hillary. The American "left" utterly worships Obama

            • GrouchoMarxist [comrade/them,use name]
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              4 years ago

              Please talk to actual people, I'm begging you. Obama doesn't have full-throated support amongst liberals, regardless of what you believe from MSM/blue check marks

              And you're repeatedly overlooking that ~40% of voters just simply do not vote, and there's material reasons for that. You could actually try to engage with those people

              Or you know, stay terminally online and convince yourself that what you see in your TV is an accurate representation of the American people

            • thefunkycomitatus [he/him,they/them]
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              4 years ago

              You keep changing what "left" you're talking about. The left means us. The left voted for Obama when they were younger, and then he turned his back on them. That's how you got Bernie. The left got bigger because of that. Obama helped create the left, as in us. What the "left", as in liberals, do doesn't really matter. Some of them will radicalize but a core group never will. That's fine. They can continue voting and brunching. But don't confuse what they do with what we do. We're getting bigger, and that's pretty undeniable. The real left has been growing under Clinton, Bush, Obama, and now Trump. It doesn't matter who's in there.

              Biden has been telling young people to fuck off this whole campaign. So guess what? We're about to have another wave of leftists come into the fold.

        • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
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          4 years ago

          Is your theory that leftist movements can only run under republican presidencies? The left was darn near nonexistent under George W Bush, its been struggling to recover since Reagan and the fall of the USSR