Holy shit Jacobin is on a roll this week.

  • thelastaxolotl [he/him]
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    1 年前

    "why socialists shouldnt abandon capitalism"

    i-am-adolf-hitler

    Matt McManus’s intriguing new book, The Political Theory of Liberal Socialism

    Might as well call it The Political Theory of National Socialism

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    1 年前

    Jacobin more like hacks to throw in the bin lol gottem.

    Seriously, though. Wtegdf?

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  • plinky [he/him]
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    1 年前

    Many liberals would agree with Ludwig von Mises that the core commitment of liberalism is to private property, and obviously socialists can have no truck with that. My response is that if liberalism really can be boiled down to little more than a fetish for property, it isn’t an inspiring credo worth allying with.

    but it can be boiled down to it, brother.

    The goal of socialists should be to hold a mirror up to liberals and say that they cannot achieve their goals unless they’re willing to extend liberal principles about equality and freedom from domination to the economy.

    I like holding mirrors, we can hold them for another 100 years at least

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      • plinky [he/him]
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        1 年前

        There are differences of course inside the right as subset of libs, but the unifying factor is private property, which grinds his gear probably.

    • miz [any, any]
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      1 年前

      hold a mirror up to liberals and say that they cannot achieve their goals

      lol this asshole thinks liberals care about achieving their stated "goals" but their real goal is maintenance of private property

    • AndJusticeForAll [none/use name]Banned
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      1 年前

      The liberals that drop the private property bit are 99% of the time anarchists, which is still, at least this strain (i.e. Chomskyites, etc.), an underdeveloped political ideology.

  • kleeon [he/him, he/him]
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    1 年前

    Let me guess, by "liberalism" they mean some vague shit about freedom, democracy and "enlightenment values"

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    • LeZero [he/him]
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      1 年前

      Many liberals would agree with Ludwig von Mises that the core commitment of liberalism is to private property, and obviously socialists can have no truck with that. My response is that if liberalism really can be boiled down to little more than a fetish for property, it isn’t an inspiring credo worth allying with.

      But I don’t think that’s true of many liberals. For plenty of people who identify with the label today, liberalism is about securing something like a dignified life for everyone, regardless of their circumstances. The goal of socialists should be to hold a mirror up to liberals and say that they cannot achieve their goals unless they’re willing to extend liberal principles about equality and freedom from domination to the economy.

      Spot on.

  • peeonyou [he/him]
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    1 年前

    If liberals don’t learn from socialists and vice versa, we might not see either doctrine survive into the twenty-first century.

    Written in 2024.

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  • FungiDebord [none/use name]Banned
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    1 年前

    Meanwhile, Hexbear will kick and scream about [smokers rights']* and the evils of the paternalism of public health policy.

    *Or the right to mindlessly consume virtually any treats without a second thought

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    • Nakoichi [they/them]Banned
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      1 年前

      smokers rights

      You can pry my lucky strikes from my cold dead hands

  • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 年前

    Come on guys don't abandon the genocidal maniacs. We might not ever get you suckers back and then how will we grift?