Chapos, am I crazy? Seen news on reddit about how LA police shot a guy 16 times, because he was running from them, dropped a gun and tried to pick it up. EVERYONE in the comments was like, well, he dropped a gun, they had to shoot him, he was a threat. Am I crazy? Or are they just straight up fascists? All of them were, like, yeah, we need police reform, but this is just media inciting riots, bringing race into this. What the fuck.

People have right to own a gun in USA, like, what, you just gonna shoot every black guy who happens to drop it?

  • lvysaur [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Or are they just straight up fascists?

    reality is almost always simpler than you think

  • OhWell [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    No you're not crazy. Americans in general are bootlickers and worship law enforcement. It's part of our culture.

    Before the internet era, they were making these same arguments about Rodney King. The quote "he was no angel" does not originate from any recent shooting or brutality incident. With King, they tried to defend the cops by saying he ran and that was a drug addict.

    Whenever cops murder someone, they always look to dehumanize the victim and make excuses. Oh, they were a drug addict. Oh they had previous felonies. Oh they may smoked pot.... At the end of the day, it's part of the class war and dehumanizing poor people who are victims of the police.

  • MarxistHedonism [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Reminder that the Tree of Life shooter shot and injured multiple officers and was taken in alive (he did need to go to the hospital).

    So no, I don’t buy that someone picking up a gun needs 16 shots and to be killed.

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    But if he had picked up the gun and continued running away then their whole narrative would be ruined. They would never allow that to happen. So they had to kill him and pretend it was because everyone - and I mean everyone - knew he intended to fire on them "first" if he had reacquired his firearm. Fuck 12.

  • Zodiark [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    They're lynching people in new ways. Michael Brown's exposed body on the street for hours before they covered it was a lynching.

    The United States is home to this reactionary colonial cultural legacy as a way to subjugate and humiliate ethnic minorities and political dissidents, and the lower class of our society.

    This is what lynchers told each other - they deserved it - as they mutilated and destroyed African-Americans and other scapegoats in the United States.

  • pisspissass [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    they're just fascists, sad to say. we live in an insane, blood soaked, nazi empire so that makes sense i think. the 4th reich. what else can you say except death to the demon cracker nation of Amerikkka

  • Balkinbalkans [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    We're raised on stories of Cowboys & Indians.

    Of course we, as a society, will bend over backward to justify the gunslinger who guns down the non-white. Dark man bad. White man with gun good. It's one of the first lessons we learn as children. It's baked into our cultural identity.

    I'm disgusted every time I see cop apologists, but I'll never be surprised.

    It's why we see blacks being lynched by cops on a regular basis, but these white shitheads keep getting taken alive.

  • VernetheJules [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I was listening to a radiolab podcast (I know I know) the other day about the federal legal standard used to justify police use of force. The thesis of the episode was that it stems from the supreme court case Graham v. Connor which basically established that use of force is justified if a reasonable police officer would have acted the same way, in the moment where force was used.

    Let's take five seconds to unpack this:

    How do you determine what a reasonable police officer would do? Why, you ask all of his cop buddies and crime experts, of course! But if that wasn't bad enough, the legal test stipulates that judgment must only be made at the exact moment where force was used. Did the perp reach for a gun? An object in their pocket? Then the cop was justified because in that moment they feared for their life. It doesn't matter if the cop provoked the suspect or could have de-escalated (by not engaging, for example).

    It's not surprising that such a standard is applied. It's peak white supremacist america to just rip shit out of context and look at everything in a vacuum, as if causality doesn't exist. It's the same fucking reason why edgelords pretend to act surprised when they post signs everywhere saying "it's okay to be white" and anyone calls them out. It also plays into elevating cops to a higher class than the rest of us by allowing their actions to be judged solely in the moment, but when a crime is committed we look to motives and CONTEXT to enhance a sentence.

    I mean isn't strange how Kyle Rittenhouse walked off even though he was also illegally possessing a firearm and walked towards the police with it, after shots had been fired nearby and people were screaming that he was the shooter? Why wasn't he shot and killed on the spot? The officers surely would've been safe to say that at any of many moments their lives felt threatened, thereby justifying lethal force. Why could that possibly be?

  • LangdonAlger [any]
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    4 years ago

    Beyond fascists, it's also a bunch of emasculated nerds who have bought the lie that the police can and will do anything to anyone at any time so therefore you have to be naked on the ground with your hands on your head whenever you interact with them or else you're liable to end up dead and that's just how it goes, they'll get theirs in court

  • DalaiLamarxist [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Is astroturfing the correct word? I'm convinced some right wing billionaire's been astroturfing pro-police stuff on reddit for a long time.