40% of U.S. adults believe that God created humans in their present form within roughly the past 10,000 years.
We do, for the purpose of realizing it's a simulation. When you figure out how to leave it's when you stop experiencing life from the perspective forced upon by said simulation and start experiencing life as the simulation.
Form is emptiness; emptiness is form. Form is not different than emptiness; emptiness is not different than form.
but the simulation is Turing Complete, so we may be millions of layers down
This made me Google the stats for my own country and its somehow even worse than the fucking USA. According to a 2011 poll, 56% of the people there believe in some form of creationism and outright reject evolution, which is just so cool and normal.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism_by_countryIf you want to check your stats
brazil literally went from 31% to a strong 47% in like 7 years LIKE FUCK ME
People are retreating into conspiracy theory, fantasy, and spirituality as they are increasingly crushed by a desperately exploitative and dying capitalism, and have been engineered into apathy to the point they literally cannot conceive of alternatives or how to change anything.
Canada isn't on there, so if anyone's curious, around 21% believe in strict creationism, 66% believe in evolution. BC is the only province where a majority (55%) believe that creationism shouldn't be taught in schools
63% of college-educated people believe in either humans being created by god(23%) or humans developing from other species, but guided by god.
The "or humans developing from other species, but guided by god" makes that stat not crazy. I mean if you believe in god isn't that just a rational way of saying "I believe in evolution, but also god."
Granted, I'm not a religious person anymore, but when I was, I never saw any contradiction between evolution and God. God is God, the Almighty etc etc, just because iron age humans had difficulties pondering the infinite doesn't mean God literally made the universe in six HUMAN DAYS. It always struck me as arrogant. Applying limits to God's creation is applying limits to God because God is infused in all things, living and inanimate. These people suck at monotheism.
That's exactly what my intelligent, leftist friends say who are religious.
Going to sincere-post for a bit.
I attended a Jewish preschool and elementary school and obviously was taught religion in addition to normal school subjects.
I never even heard about a creationism vs evolution debate until I was in high school. We were taught the creation story from the Torah in my Judaica class and about dinosaurs/the Big Bang in science class. They never seemed like they contradicted each other.
Maybe my school was just not as shitty(still ton of Israeli propaganda though), but I always got the impression that part of doing Torah study is making interpretations to explain the contradictions and that when you read 7 days and 7 nights that wouldn’t necessarily mean days the way humans experience it. Like it just seemed like it made sense that dinosaurs happened on one of those earlier days and they fucked it up so god started over with Adam and Eve or even “God created man” could mean god created an organism that would eventually evolve into man.
Idk my elementary school brain could make it make sense, I don’t know why it’s so hard for fundamentalists.
Thats how they taught us evolution in Canadian Catholic school too, that the Book of Genesis has to be read allegorically and evolution is entirely compatible with faith. Like its kind of blasphemous to say that the Devil just planted all this evidence for evolution and an ancient Earth because that would mean God really dosen't give a shit and wants the Devil to fuck with us on a grand scale.
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Belief in creationism has always been sky-high, the legacy of a society where damn near everyone used to be religious in some form or another. 40% is probably a little low compared to prior years.
That 40% also includes folks who are "smart" but raised religious and still are, but who have simply never bothered to examine their beliefs about the origins of the universe. I mean, whether the Earth is 10,000 years old or 4 billion, it doesn't impact their lives materially one bit. In fact, a lot of them probably know deep down that actually examining this question could lead to questioning other things they don't want to question. I know quite a few people like this...
I need to finish that. I remember getting that book my freshmen year of college.
Yeah, capital shifted back to religiosity to combat secular socialism. Embedding capitalist ideology in church doctrine and creating the prosperity gospel we have today.
Nah this is purely yankee shit even this site has a huge active portion of religious nutjobs
Unfortunately not pure Yankee shit, due to colonialism lots of people in South Saharan Africa are religious fundamentalists, I think the latest stats is 75-80% of South Africans view themselves as Christian and 56% believe in some form of creationism and deny the fact of evolution. It also leads to really contradictory views such as 80% of people believing homosexually is morally wrong but 70% of people willing to accept and protect the rights of gay people. Just really confusing as someone that's lived there all my life
Scary shit, right? But I feel like this is also probably the lowest it's ever been in the US
I mean look at a flagella protein pump and tell me this reality wasnt intentionally designed.
This is a bit, right?
Like I'm not actually unironically seeing one of the dumbest arguments in favor of literal magical creation on a website for materialist politics?
I dont know buddy I'm pretty sure materialism was designed by an intelligent creator being too.
And it isnt magical creation, these irrefutable theories science holds up on a pedestal were created by the creator
Love to repeat decade old, right wing thinktank propaganda because it's compatible with my weird hangups.
God or no God, the process is naturalistic.
It's fine to believe the rules were made up by someone, it's fine to believe the rules were part of a deterministic plan (as long as you don't care about free will.) You do you.
But the phrase "intelligent creator" is a euphemism invented for "fucking magic." Because that was the only way they could sneak it into schools.
Literally this entire argument was part of a right wing culture war to abuse deeply held religious convictions to anchor people to right wing propaganda sources and projects.
It's a fucking op.
The notion of "creation" is completely irrelevant to the basic science that determines how reality shapes itself. They have nothing to do with each other.
