“I’m a gun owner; Tim Walz is a gun owner,” Harris said.

“I did not know that,” Winfrey replied.

“If somebody breaks into my house, they’re getting shot,” Harris added. “Probably should not have said that. But my staff will deal with that later.”

The article has a video clip. I love the bullshit "probably..." It's a 100% certainty she spoke with her staff and workshopped the phrasing and presentation of gun stuff. Plus I bet she practiced her lines. No American politician is going to wing it when talking about guns.

  • AmericaDelendaEst [comrade/them]
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    8 hours ago

    "take what you want and leave" just generously assumes that what they want isn't to hurt you

    Why should that change when the TV gets moved to your house

    Stores have insurance for shit, how many people have "burglar coverage"? Most people don't have infinite wealth to just let walk out their front door

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      4 hours ago

      "take what you want and leave" just generously assumes that what they want isn't to hurt you

      It's not generous to assume what is easily the most plausible interpretation. Unless it's like a gang hit or something (including by cops), who the fuck wants to brutalize an entire family? That happened one time in Cheshire, CT and conservatives the whole country over have been milking it for a decade and a half.

      how many people have "burglar coverage"?

      lol

      • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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        4 hours ago

        Even if theynare putting a price tag on it, they are only making an "offer" on a home invader's life. It is entirely up to the home invader as to whether they want to "accept" that offer.

      • Abracadaniel [he/him]
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        7 hours ago

        burglars typically get the fuck out if they learn someone is home, if they stick around after a warning they're far more likely to be dangerous.

      • AmericaDelendaEst [comrade/them]
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        8 hours ago

        idk if someone is going to do harm to me, I don't care about the sanctity of their life

        The only difference between the bourgeois exploiting me and some shithead stealing from me is one is a class traitor

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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          4 hours ago

          Comrade Beanis here made it explicitly clear that shooting someone in defense of your and your family's actual safety is legitimate. That's the whole point of the "point the gun at the door" thing.

          • AmericaDelendaEst [comrade/them]
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            4 hours ago

            the thing is yall don't consider taking my shit to be doing harm to me, someone living paycheck to paycheck who would never be able to replace any of it in a reasonable time frame, and you're fucking wrong shrug-outta-hecks like are you really so incapable of conceiving "harm" to a person beyond just bodily harm? Like if I come steal all your fucking food and you starve to death, it's fine because I didn't assault you? Literally fucking social murder, but it's fine because uhhhh burglary is cool and good? Christ in fucking heaven, stop arguing with me about this

            • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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              4 hours ago

              If you have a house, you should have insurance. If you have an apartment and lock your door, it's extremely unlikely someone is going to loot it because apartments are just bad targets (and low-rent ones are typically going to have much less in them worth stealing).

              No one is going to break into your domicile to steal loaves of bread, and even if they did, they'd need to come back on a regular basis and also rob the local soup kitchen(s) for it to be remotely viable that you starve even in this Twilight Zone scenario.

        • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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          7 hours ago

          The massive assumption here being that by default they will do harm to you, this is true crime brain.

          • AmericaDelendaEst [comrade/them]
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            4 hours ago

            "Stealing my shit" is doing me harm because I am a poor person who can't just magic a new life out of nothing. I have no fucking sympathy for anyone who tries to steal from me, sorry. And idk but i'm not going to trust renters insurance to just go "oh, someone stole all your shit? here's the full value of it" 🤷‍♂️

                • MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them]
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                  3 hours ago

                  If you are one of the 376/100000 (0.37%) to even be burglarized in the first place:

                  https://www.statista.com/statistics/1238258/burglary-rate-country/

                  • AmericaDelendaEst [comrade/them]
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                    3 hours ago

                    if y'all gonna be all "this is reactionary" i'm gonna say this is some Ultra shit, "the only acceptable response to burglary is to hide in your room, otherwise you're a chud" and going all morshupls about it

                    • MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them]
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                      2 hours ago

                      I didn't say that. It's just funny to me how there's an internet culture of blowing a very specific, rare, type of crime out of proportion so they can fantizise over shooting someone.

                      If you actually want to make your family safer stop worrying so much about the .3% thing and focus more on getting less cars on the road? More public transit, more walkable cities, less cars means a way safer place for everyone.

    • Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml
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      6 hours ago

      Literally every homeowner in the US that hasn’t paid off their home (read: most of them) have homeowners insurance, which has theft and burglary provisions. A good many have renters insurance, too.