The meat of the article is after

The research that’s raising eyebrows comes from Japan, Taiwan and Australia.

  • merthyr1831@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    I love "facts based journalism"!!!! I love it when a single shoddy research paper becomes hard evidence of a proven fact to support a state agenda!!!

  • Hexboare [they/them]
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    2 days ago

    Bowdring says there’s emerging evidence that nonalcoholic beverages may prime kids to switch to the real thing.

    From the emerging evidence cited

    However, concerns that non-alcoholic beverage use would lead to increased alcohol use were not supported because alcohol flavoured non-alcoholic beverage consumption usually started after adolescents began consuming alcohol.

  • Nationalgoatism [he/him]
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    2 days ago

    In Taiwan, where the legal drinking age is 18, high schoolers who said they drank nonalcoholic beverages were more likely than those who didn’t to express an intention to drink alcohol.

    This article seems to me to be completely reversing correlation and causation. Isn't it far more likely that young people who are more interested in drinking alcohol are more likely to drink non alcoholic beer etc?

    • Kairos@lemmy.today
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      2 days ago

      You're correct. It's so easy to lie with statistics that I now start with the impression that it's any new statistic is an outright lie.

    • SSJMarx@lemm.ee
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      2 days ago

      Makes sense to me, but of course it's worth mentioning that either way correlation does not mean causation no matter how much sense it makes. You need experimental data to make a causal claim.

  • WhyEssEff [she/her]
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    2 days ago

    I don't know shit about this, no investigation so don't put stock into my opinion, but my gut tells me the demand for non-alcoholic drinks comes from people who would otherwise be seeking out alcohol in the first place

    • bigbrowncommie69 [any]
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      1 day ago

      Also kids who go somewhere with their parents and want something fancy (for the mocktails anyway).

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    2 days ago

    Paying a guy $30 to buy you $60 of Clausthaler and Cranberry juice mixed with mint so-true

  • Lerios [hy/hym]
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    2 days ago

    huh, in my country this is already the law. given our culture of drinking, i really don't think it works lol. like, if a kid is bothering to try to get ahold of non-alchoholic beer they're already having that behaviour modeled to them and thats the part that actually matters

    • VILenin [he/him]
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      2 days ago

      Surely hardline enforcement and locking people up will work this time around! Why bother addressing systemic issues when you can just arrest and brutalize teenagers?

  • mushroom [he/him]
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    2 days ago

    every time i've bought NA beers in the US i've been carded. figured this was already the law