It won't be the electoral college, it'll be a handful of Republican strongholds refusing to certify. It'll play out like a repeat of Gore v Bush except the GOP's argument will be way dumber.
The Supreme Court will hand it to Trump 6-3 and the Dems will still blame Jill Stein.
Now the U.S. Supreme Court has spoken. Let there be no doubt, while I strongly disagree with the court’s decision, I accept it. I accept the finality of this outcome which will be ratified next Monday in the Electoral College. And tonight, for the sake of our unity of the people and the strength of our democracy, I offer my concession.
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But many progressives are lukewarm about Nader's candidacy, and some are downright hostile. There are a variety of reasons for this, but the most important one, by far, is the notion that Nader will steal votes from Gore, the lesser of the two mainstream evils.
It won't be a repeat of Bush v. Gore, because that election was actually pretty close. This will be one of the most hilariously lopsided elections in history, where Kamala wins like 75% of the vote, and wins every single swing state (along with at least one red state no one expected to go blue), but the GOP makes a dumb argument and the Supreme Court forces Trump to win.
She's not nearly as popular as she should be to pull that off.
The whackadoos will really come out of the woodwork then. Nutcases of every variety.
I mean we've already had two nutcases going after this nitwit just for running again. If he "wins" against a majority and against the EC through some amazing and unconstitutional horseshit in Congress and the courts, we are probably going to see a coup.
he won in 2016 with an electoral majority but lost the popular vote, and since democrats refuse to do anything but eventually become republicans, they haven't made a way to prevent this. Trump could easily do it again this year.
american democracy is actually extremely shit, who knew
Read the original comment again. Americans will tolerate an EC win without a majority. But Congress refusing to certify, the supreme court backing them, and the presidency being decided by the legislature instead of the votes? Has it ever happened?
Again, we've seen two whackadoos go after him just for running. If he "wins" this way?
what do you mean by 'whackadoos' because he seems to be doing fine 4 years after the end of his term. its awfully pathetic of your 'justice' to take this long to imprison a cut and dry criminal.
And america does not have the political will for a popular revolution, where were the riots all across the country when roe v wade was destroyed? Where are the mass movements against trump threatening to overthrow him if he wins even legitimately?
Nothing, scraps. Americans will get angry, then shrug their shoulders and roll over like the dogs of empire they are.
what do you mean by 'whackadoos'
i assume they mean the two assassination attempts (so far)
2000 ended up being decided by the Florida state government and federal supreme court so it's kinda happened. I think the deciding factor is if the democrats are willing to go along or not, and considering how much they keep banging on about needing a "strong republican party" and "national unity", there is no reason to think they would actually put up a fight in a 2000-style (or similar) situation.
Here's hoping more assassins come out of the woodwork though!
the parliamentarian beheads kamala and declares the beginning of a thousand year burgerreich. libs have no choice but to follow procedure.
yeah we'd love to pass this single payer thing but the parliamentarian is just going nuts with a pair of metal nun chucks in there
Ah, well, nevertheless it was Jill Steins fault
Is wat we're going to hear on repeat
- Jill Stein
- College protests or college students
with a spinewho don't understand democracy - TikTok
- Russia
- China
Take your pick.
I am really hoping for Kamala to lose this one. Dems should be actively punished for committing genocide as well as all the other stuff. Just saying 'other stuff' because their poor handling of railways, labor rights, trans rights, and now what's going on with the hurricane just sort of fades into the background of a fucking holocaust.
Do they actually care if they lose, is it really a punishment? Feels like they'll just continue Republican policies whenever they're next in power and keep willingly being dragged to the right.
Yeah it comes down to two case:
- Dems care whether they lose -> okay so they should lose so they don't think they can just enthusiastically prosecute a genocide and still win
- Dems don't care whether they lose -> cool I will treat them similarly and simply not vote for a party that does not care about winning
It mostly punishes the libs putting Kamala signs all over their front lawns. The Dem politicians are only punished in the sense of losing more people to socialist ideas.
This time, I actually think they do. They actually seem to be trying this time, presumably because they're scared of Trump with presidential immunity, and it's quickly approaching "and then they came for me".
Having Drumpf in the White House another 4 years will give the Democrat party a massive angle for donation fishing.
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A tie vote could happen which means faithless electors can throw the election
Which would be funnier, President Trump with VP Walz, or President Kamala with VP Vance?
President Trump with VP Walz and a Dem Congress is definitely the least bad outcome. President Kamala with VP Vance is probably the funniest outcome
watch a bunch of them switch their votes. Guy A switches Trump to Kopmala, guy B switches Kopmala to Trump, etc. Ends up being the same but everyone has to add a little "*Electors 20, 30, 29, 19, 92, and 340 voted wrong."
2016 was the funnier version. The 7 faithless electors didn't do anything that mattered but now anyone has to mention they voted third-party
The map is intentionally designed to force swing state votes to make this tie, but Georgia voted for Biden in 2020 so this isn't impossible.
honestly i hope this does happen. it might be the one thing that would make libs wake up. then again, didn't bush steal an election and the dems just kinda said "ah drats! well, next time then!"?
well surely this time will be different. it is after all, "the most important election of our lifetime. democracy as we know it is on the line"
Tbh I feel like that's a pretty likely outcome at the moment lol
