I'll start, I missed the outdoor cats struggle session so i don't know what its deal was except a vague idea that outdoor cats were bad, so I've let my two cats stay being outdoor cats because I feel bad locking them inside, like I want to give them some experience of freedom to go where they please so they can live more fulfilling lives

Edit: also kruschev is imo a lot better than most hexbear users give him credit for

  • beef_curds [she/her]
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    11 months ago

    Can we do "please use a washcloth in the shower?"

    I think it has the potential to really annoy the core audience here, and also gives room for loofah posting.

      • beef_curds [she/her]
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        11 months ago

        Because actually using a wet cloth to scrub something gets it cleaner than just putting soap on it then rinsing. If you think you're doing a good job scrubbing with your fingers, you aren't getting nearly as much coverage as you'd get in half the time with a rag.

        also exfoliation.

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          • beef_curds [she/her]
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            11 months ago

            There you go. That's the spirit. Now we got the struggle sesh.

            wiping themselves with a bacteria rag

            Gonna blow your mind here: you wash them.

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              • beef_curds [she/her]
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                11 months ago

                Some people rinse/wring. I hang mine to dry in the shower and just toss it in a bucket the next day to wash with the towels.

                Rags are like $10 for a dozen, so like, as long as you're doing laundry regularly fry , you should be fine.

                • keepcarrot [she/her]
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                  11 months ago

                  Hmm, people seem to have one each here. I don't think I see anyone with multiple wash clothes floating around.

          • Zoift [he/him]
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            11 months ago

            Its not a matter of abrasion or exfoliation, so much as friction. Soap helps but the primary cleaning mechanism in any shower or bath is manually scrubbing dirt particles away. A washcloth or loofah is objectively better than your hands or a raw bar of soap.

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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              11 months ago

              Objectively better at doing what? What goal are you trying to achieve? Does it reduce rates of skin infection? Improve skin health? Make you live longer? Make you happier? It really sounds like conformity to an arbitrary cultural perception of "cleanness" that isn't related to any actual health or sanitary issues, but rather, dare I say, artificially created by loofah companies to sell more loofahs (which, as biological planet material, are subject to decay and harboring bacteria!)

              • Zoift [he/him]
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                11 months ago

                Objectively better at doing what?

                Removing dirt

                What goal are you trying to achieve?

                Clean balls

                Does it reduce rates of skin infection? Improve skin health? Make you live longer? Make you happier?

                Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, and also you can wear it as a hat.

                It really sounds like conformity to an arbitrary cultural perception of "cleanness" that isn't related to any actual health or sanitary issues.

                I bet you dont use a bidet either.

                but rather, dare I say, artificially created by loofah companies to sell more loofahs

                I grew mine guerilla gardening in the sump pond a condemned ampartment complex. The complex is condemned because i released native bedbugs and sprayed community-sourced MRSA on the doorhandles in an act of anti-landlord praxis. The loofa gourds are not native however, and have started choking out the grasses of the local dogpark. This is a double blow against DSA PMC gentrification and i am a better leftist than you. I will send you loofa seeds by COD mail. You will grow them. You do not have a choice in this.

                which, as biological planet material, are subject to decay and harboring bacteria!

                I bet you're not composting your drain-hair either.

                • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                  11 months ago

                  Okay guerilla loofahs is cool as hell. I will start washing my balls now in honor of your good works.

                  rat-salute-2

          • beef_curds [she/her]
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            11 months ago

            Trying to clean up the left, one drum circle at a time.

          • TrudeauCastroson [he/him]
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            11 months ago

            Loofas get gross quickly. Leaving a wet thing in your shower is inviting bacteria and mold that you'll keep scrubbing everywhere.

            Washcloth way more hygienic. If you want it to be as gross as a loofah don't even bother replacing it.

            • Maoo [none/use name]
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              11 months ago

              If you rinse, wring out, and hang the loofa it dries oit.

              PS in the spirit of this thread, I'll declare that your opinion makes you somehow anti-black.

              • nocages [they/them]
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                11 months ago

                I put up one of those sticky hooks near a window just for this purpose! Never had a loofah get gross on me. I am using the gourd type, too.

                • Maoo [none/use name]
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                  11 months ago

                  Wash...cloth?

                  Like a cloth you use for washing?

                  Who has ever heard of such a thing?

                • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                  11 months ago

                  How you wash and where and in what manner is very much a culture thing and varies enormously. Washing legs is one that used to pop up a lot on reddit, with half the thread being like "Wash what? there's nothing on my legs?" and the other half denouncing them as horrible slime monsters who should be held down and scrubbed for their own good.

              • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                11 months ago

                I'll declare that your opinion makes you somehow anti-black.

                Now we're making progress!

        • SootyChimney [any]
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          11 months ago

          These are baseless assertions - Your skin is covered in a layer of oils and skin that will capture your grime, and will naturally come off with hands and soap in running warm water. Unless you're regularly covered in like glue or you're showering every hour then using your hands will absolutely work to the same efficacy.

          Exfoliation happens naturally, it does not need artificially scrubbing and materials unless you have a medical condition. My own baseless assertion is that scrubbing with a sponge or rag will remove more oils or skin than you should and instead expose and dry out your skin, making it worse.

          • beef_curds [she/her]
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            11 months ago

            I like to keep my assertions baseless, as it affords me more agility.

      • ElGosso [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        Just wash it with your towels. And loofahs that you never wash just turn into big bacteria sponges that you smear all over your body

        • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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          11 months ago

          but I already don't wash my towels enough (nothing awful but I like to get more than one use out of them) and washcloths get so much dirtier. easier to just spend the extra time and scrub with my hands

    • eight [it/its]
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      11 months ago

      tbf i don't shower hardly at all because i don't smell bad

    • alexandra_kollontai [she/her]
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      11 months ago

      This one is genius. It's genius because people can be mildly offended by it, and need to retort to defend their honor. "What, you're saying my body is grubby all the time?" "Of course I wash my washcloth after every use!" "No my bathroom is not infested with bacteria!" I'll be back in a couple of hours to check how it's going antelope-popcorn

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    • Maoo [none/use name]
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      11 months ago

      If you shave all the SMELL ZONES then hand-washing is enough.

      Seal smooth gang stay winning.

      • SootyChimney [any]
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        11 months ago

        These are lies sold to you by the wash-material bourgeoisie, comrade. You can absolutely handwash to perfect cleanliness without having a disgusting filth-collector to do it.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        11 months ago

        No. It's a combination of culture and personal choice. Bathing practices very enormously across different cultures and such. There's probably a pretty cool youtube series on going around the world and talking about how different people wash.

    • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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      11 months ago

      Personally I retvrned to tradition and started rubbing myself down with olive oil and scraping it off like the Greeks of old

    • Florn [they/them]
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      11 months ago

      I'm using a loofah now, but if it doesn't help my acne soon I'm gonna take drastic measures and break out the steel wool