Back on my bullshit, quitting, again. This time I called my 1-800 quit line and ordered the patch to help. But it's so ass backwards their shipping is 7-14 days usps. So with that logic by the time I get the patch the cravings will have stopped since they normally subside by day 4 or 5, fucking stupid.
I'm in a bad mood and want a smoke.
*edit: wow I'm really in a bad fucking mood, like I want to fight someone. Being sober fucking sucks.
Keep it up, proud of you! I quit cold turkey in 2015 and I've only had one cig since (while drunk in 2017). You can do it! Also think of all the money you'll save lmao cigs are so expensive now
I still love the smell of secondhand smoke and think about smoking a few times a week though
I remember turning back on my way to buy more smokes while going through withdrawal. Best decision I made.
Listen to your conscience
I'm sorry, Comrade. I honestly hope you can find the peace you need. It sucks they make it so difficult but I'm happy you are trying to quit. One day at a time.
In a show of solidarity, I will let you fight me and punch my face as much as you want.
My face:
Show
good luck soldier, im two months sober and every day is a battle but your skin and your lungs will thank you down the line.
Trans comrade chiming in to say i’m proud of you and you got this!
OP I never got addicted to nicotine, and I only know that fight as a supporting partner, or a family member. I know it's hard. I've also sobered up off opioids in my distant past.
It's a test of will, no matter what the substance is. Be angry, feel like shit. Start some fights. Be okay with doing those things, but don't be okay with alleviating the symptoms with more product.
Quitting pills, and later suboxone, was a fucking nightmare. I learned some tricks to get through it, supplements to take, behaviors to start the interior dopamine pumps up again - it's not intuitive when you spent as long as I did getting your dopamine from a pharamceutical of one sort or another. You forget how to find pleasure in life.
Nicotine seems similar, in that the things you used nicotine to cope with are coming into sharper focus, because your body isn't regulating that shit, right? So everything pisses you off. You don't have a chill bone in your body?
But if you make it, your body does return to normal. You get that back. It's better to punch a bag or a pillow or break whatever you're okay with to channel the rage while you feel it.
There's something I can't even describe about being free from dependencies. I don't know what cigarettes cost anymore, but it can't be a cheap habit when you're addicted. It can't feel good to feel wrong until you have some arbitrary chem coursing through you.
The nadir is a fuckin' nightmare, but i've always regretted letting myself yield to the cravings, i've never regretted pushing through them.
Sorry for the pep talk or whatever, but you can do it bud.
bro i believe in you!! you got this
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pretty sure Yugopnik (from The Deprogram) a couple months ago was quitting smoking with nicotine patches
I quit by being in a place I wasn't allowed to smoke for 9 months. Obviously that's not something everyone can do. But isolating yourself somewhere you can't acquire any nicotine products will force you into going past withdrawal. I've heard of people going camping during a 3-day weekend and just not bringing any product with them. Even better if someone can drop you off and pick you up so you don't get tempted to buy anything in a nearby town.
I don't know if this will help but the knowledge that allowed me to quit was that the chemical addiction to nicotine goes away after 3 days, everything after that is habit.
This allowed me to realign my thinking about it. All I had to do was effectively sleep for 3 days to beat the chemical side and then remind myself that I don't need one and it's in my head afterwards. It gave me a lot of power I did not have before.
"you gotta turn your woes, into Woahs!"
but seriously, proud of you, i know it's tough to quit
when I quit (4.5 years ago) I got into crafting. something to do with my hands and head. sculpy, crappy paints, canvas, sand paper and little wood, boxes, stain.
so when I felt the pull for a smoke break, I would instead fiddle with something and maybe do a little work on it.
it was clutch to have like a desk area just for works in progress and their materials, because it makes starting and stopping easy.
I heard 3 weeks for full physical independence from addiction. everything after is about new habits.
one of the random things that helped me was washing all of my clothes and jackets, etc, so they smell nice. when the sense of smell returns, it's crazy how potent cig smoke is.
this is a great idea ngl. I don't smoke but sometimes compulsively pull out sewing or electronics projects when I'm extremely stressed
Have you tried vaping? Weirdly it helped me quit even though I only switched so I could "smoke" indoors lol. It was a good substitute at first, but over time I got tired of certain things about it (taste wasn't as good, it lacks the "rituals" of smoking, getting to "smoke" indoors meant I did it more and got nicotine poisoning headaches somewhat regularly) and when I ended up quitting vaping, I didn't feel a need to go back to cigarettes.
I vape now and it's bad I hit it all day like a fiend. So I'm looking to just stop all together.
I was gonna say the same. Some can use vaping to quit but i just switched to smoking my vape all day. while vaping kicks the shit out of smoking in terms of stinkiness i have no faith in the safety of these vapes. My lungs feel worse than with og baccy.
Have you ever quit before? My longest stint was for 7 years before relapse
Have you ever quit before? My longest stint was for 7 years before relapse
I did 20 days before, and before that I had a month. So it feels like a month is the best so far.
First couple of months are the shittiest. Won't lie, probably 2-3 before i wasnt getting that empty feeling in my throat, that craving for the burn. But if you get past that part it really does get easier i swear. Not easy but i swear not as bad as what you're going thru rn.
Youve got one down mate, you can do it. Ill cheer for your success
I vape now and it's bad I hit it all day like a fiend.
it me lmao
i have a refillable rig currently on 1.5% nicotine strength and i still hit this shit like a crackhead all day. i need to quit too.
idk what it's like where you are but here you have to buy little shots of nicotine and then nicotine-free juice (where the flavour is), then mix them yourself. the way i quit was i slowly reduced the amount of nicotine i put into the juice over time, so i got the sensation of vaping but i was lowering the nicotine levels
nicotine poisoning headaches
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That's what those were... Mainly got a little barfy feeling though. It's been like a week without a vape and I feel pretty normal again. NGL I know the nic high will hit super good after having taken a day or two unintentional TB before. Might just restrict my nic to hookah or blunt wraps. But also might still try to be completely sober, but the weed seems to even me out. So IDK.
I quit with the nicotine pouches. If it’s any consolation to you I tried smoking again and found it pretty gross so it gets better with time.
Thanks, but I figure I'd just be better off zero nicotine. I don't want to trade one addiction for another.
As I said I used it to stop smoking then just quit the pouches, it’s kinda like using a patch anyways 🤷♂️
Oh sorry misread that. Yeah I'm just afraid though I'd get addicted to the pouch. With the patch you step down after a week to a lower dose so it's supposed to make quitting easier. Plus I can get it for free through the quit line.
Free is good. It can work the same with the pouches, good luck it’s worth quitting smoking is pretty gross
Ugh there's nothing worse than being in that 'sweet spot' where you regain your taste and cigs start to be tasty again, you just gotta fight through it until they get gross again.
I have dreams sometimes of buying a pack of Lucky Strikes but they're the old ones before the RJ Reynolds buyout that tasted like rust and dirt.
I hate the dreams so much, they're so vivid and make you feel like you did smoke and your wanting one when you get up.
those never go away, you have to learn to cope with them. i'm chiefing on newports every time i dream and i haven't had a port in over 5 years or so.
God yes. I had a dream where I bought a carton and stuck it in the freezer to keep them fresh as I used to do. I woke up. Proceeded to check the freezer even though I knew they weren't there.
Haha those dreams where you're smoking and wake up feeling guilty/relieved it's not real mannn
