• PhaseFour [he/him]
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    In Indonesia, she worked for United Oil Company, the Ford Foundation, Asia Foundation (CIA cutout), and USAID (CIA cutout). She lived in Jakarta throughout the mass murder of communists.

    Independent journalists were investigating this back in 2008 & 2009. Although, Birtherism made discussing Obama's family impossible.

    Mike Judge from Death is Just Around the Corner talks a lot about his theory that Trump has been a long-time CIA asset. The fact that Trump led the Birtherism conspiracy, which covered for Obama's CIA connections, is an interesting bit of history.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      Trump being a CIA asset is the funniest timeline, therefore it must be true. Imagine having to instruct trump to do some kind of black op or something, it seems like a scene from a crappy spy movie or something

      • Blueskysocialism [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        There's no way he's a CIA asset, unless he's the greatest actor in all of history. He'd have told EVERYONE.

          • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            The vast majority of Americans are CIA assets, including new recruits to the CIA who don't realize yet how much of what's going on is actually just their internal propaganda. This actually causes a lot of problems for them in terms of having accurate intel.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          "Believe me folks, when they said I had to get, y'know, the guy in South America, I did it and did it well folks, no one can carry out assassinations like me folks, it was a big beautiful poisoning"

        • YouKnowIt [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          No way man, the guy who bragged on TV about his mob connects meeting him in his office is totally an op

              • PhaseFour [he/him]
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                Everything in national culture either exists because of the CIA, or is allowed to exist by the CIA. That's not an exaggeration.

            • PhaseFour [he/him]
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              My city's philanthropy foundation is ran by a CIA agent. It's cliche but it's true lol

                • PhaseFour [he/him]
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                  The CIA is engrained into basically every large conglomeration of money. It's not surprising that the previous director of In-Q-Tel runs my city's philanthropic operations.

                  Shit like this is why the "everything I don't like is a CIA op" cliche exists, though. Almost every single NGO in my city is beholden to an organization led by the CIA for funding.

                  We live in their world.

                  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    4 years ago

                    I mean people in my country like to joke when a corrupt politician in my country used "CIA spies" as an excuse yet Nelson Mandela's hideout was revealed by a CIA asset which led to him spending a very long time in jail, so it's definitely true to some extent

      • PhaseFour [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        He's an asset, not an agent. More than likely, some mobbed up CIA agent feeds Trump the "real story", and Trump parrots it thinking he's a genius.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          I'm mostly joking around but let me rephrase, imagine being the agents that have to manipulate the asset trump in this case. Trump couldn't even stay in hospital for a weekend, imagine trying to get him to parrot some CIA propaganda. No empathy for CIA agents of course, but just think of how funny it would be

      • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Trump is beyond hated by the intellegence community. Everything you hear that relates to him being a Russian puppet is almost certainly part of a coordinated effort between the likes of an Adam Schiff type and some randos in the intelligence world.

        The big reason they don't like him is he's fucking things up re their long held strategies around NATO and Russia (they're fine with what he's doing around China as any distaste there comes from wall street). The Russia stuff per some conversations I've had seems to do more with how they're helping out Snowden whose the mortal enemy of these people as the top thing, and as a more minor thing is Putin's involvement in Syria (as not everyone in the IC is an Israel hawk and that's the only major reason to get rid of Assad), not because Russia represents any meaningful threat.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          I thought the CIA had both a liberal faction and conservative one that were basically fighting it out for control of the CIA? Anyways the bit about trump being a CIA asset is mostly me joking around, just imagine how funny it would be

          • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            The conservative faction of the CIA is far more loyal to people like John Bolton, the Bush family, ect. than they are to Trump. Maybe some of them were pro Trump in the beginning, but he's made their jobs harder rather than easier.

            Per everything I saw in 2015-2016, the Republican foreign policy hawks wanted the most by far was Rubio as many felt that Jeb Bush would ignore Latin America just like his brother had.

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        You know how Pizzagate delegitimized any research into the Jeffrrey Epstein global pedophile conspiracy? Birtherism did the same thing to research on Obama's CIA connections.

          • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            5g is going to bring the surveillance state to every City and allow mass adoption of ai for transportation logistics.

            Oh hey look 5g created corona

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              I kinda agree with the ones upthread, but there's nothing that 5g does that doesn't exist already. There is already 24/7 camera footage available in like every big city.

        • OhWell [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I'm not sure Pizzagate delegitimized anything to do with the Epstein case. Pizzagate happened before, and then when the Epstein news broke, it really confirmed the major belief that the ruling class are up to some evil shit with all of their money.

          The Epstein case is also a great example of how sex trafficking really works.

          • PhaseFour [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            The Epstein story was breaking in 2015. Pizzagate delayed a lot of that getting into public conscious for years.