• PhaseFour [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    In Indonesia, she worked for United Oil Company, the Ford Foundation, Asia Foundation (CIA cutout), and USAID (CIA cutout). She lived in Jakarta throughout the mass murder of communists.

    Independent journalists were investigating this back in 2008 & 2009. Although, Birtherism made discussing Obama's family impossible.

    Mike Judge from Death is Just Around the Corner talks a lot about his theory that Trump has been a long-time CIA asset. The fact that Trump led the Birtherism conspiracy, which covered for Obama's CIA connections, is an interesting bit of history.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Trump being a CIA asset is the funniest timeline, therefore it must be true. Imagine having to instruct trump to do some kind of black op or something, it seems like a scene from a crappy spy movie or something

      • Blueskysocialism [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        There's no way he's a CIA asset, unless he's the greatest actor in all of history. He'd have told EVERYONE.

          • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            The vast majority of Americans are CIA assets, including new recruits to the CIA who don't realize yet how much of what's going on is actually just their internal propaganda. This actually causes a lot of problems for them in terms of having accurate intel.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          "Believe me folks, when they said I had to get, y'know, the guy in South America, I did it and did it well folks, no one can carry out assassinations like me folks, it was a big beautiful poisoning"

        • YouKnowIt [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          No way man, the guy who bragged on TV about his mob connects meeting him in his office is totally an op

              • PhaseFour [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Everything in national culture either exists because of the CIA, or is allowed to exist by the CIA. That's not an exaggeration.

            • PhaseFour [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              My city's philanthropy foundation is ran by a CIA agent. It's cliche but it's true lol

                • PhaseFour [he/him]
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                  The CIA is engrained into basically every large conglomeration of money. It's not surprising that the previous director of In-Q-Tel runs my city's philanthropic operations.

                  Shit like this is why the "everything I don't like is a CIA op" cliche exists, though. Almost every single NGO in my city is beholden to an organization led by the CIA for funding.

                  We live in their world.

                  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    4 years ago

                    I mean people in my country like to joke when a corrupt politician in my country used "CIA spies" as an excuse yet Nelson Mandela's hideout was revealed by a CIA asset which led to him spending a very long time in jail, so it's definitely true to some extent

      • PhaseFour [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        He's an asset, not an agent. More than likely, some mobbed up CIA agent feeds Trump the "real story", and Trump parrots it thinking he's a genius.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          I'm mostly joking around but let me rephrase, imagine being the agents that have to manipulate the asset trump in this case. Trump couldn't even stay in hospital for a weekend, imagine trying to get him to parrot some CIA propaganda. No empathy for CIA agents of course, but just think of how funny it would be

      • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Trump is beyond hated by the intellegence community. Everything you hear that relates to him being a Russian puppet is almost certainly part of a coordinated effort between the likes of an Adam Schiff type and some randos in the intelligence world.

        The big reason they don't like him is he's fucking things up re their long held strategies around NATO and Russia (they're fine with what he's doing around China as any distaste there comes from wall street). The Russia stuff per some conversations I've had seems to do more with how they're helping out Snowden whose the mortal enemy of these people as the top thing, and as a more minor thing is Putin's involvement in Syria (as not everyone in the IC is an Israel hawk and that's the only major reason to get rid of Assad), not because Russia represents any meaningful threat.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          I thought the CIA had both a liberal faction and conservative one that were basically fighting it out for control of the CIA? Anyways the bit about trump being a CIA asset is mostly me joking around, just imagine how funny it would be

          • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            The conservative faction of the CIA is far more loyal to people like John Bolton, the Bush family, ect. than they are to Trump. Maybe some of them were pro Trump in the beginning, but he's made their jobs harder rather than easier.

            Per everything I saw in 2015-2016, the Republican foreign policy hawks wanted the most by far was Rubio as many felt that Jeb Bush would ignore Latin America just like his brother had.

      • PhaseFour [he/him]
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        You know how Pizzagate delegitimized any research into the Jeffrrey Epstein global pedophile conspiracy? Birtherism did the same thing to research on Obama's CIA connections.

          • Papanurgel [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            5g is going to bring the surveillance state to every City and allow mass adoption of ai for transportation logistics.

            Oh hey look 5g created corona

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              I kinda agree with the ones upthread, but there's nothing that 5g does that doesn't exist already. There is already 24/7 camera footage available in like every big city.

        • OhWell [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I'm not sure Pizzagate delegitimized anything to do with the Epstein case. Pizzagate happened before, and then when the Epstein news broke, it really confirmed the major belief that the ruling class are up to some evil shit with all of their money.

          The Epstein case is also a great example of how sex trafficking really works.

          • PhaseFour [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            The Epstein story was breaking in 2015. Pizzagate delayed a lot of that getting into public conscious for years.

  • MyAltUserNameIsCool [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    How do you share stuff like this with friends and family and not come across as crazy as a Q dude? Same with anything about 9/11?

      • MyAltUserNameIsCool [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I just listened to True Anons whole 9/11 series and feel like I want someone who’s less lazy to source every single thing in there because I feel like I can’t quote any of it right now.

    • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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      You repeatedly say the phase, "Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but ..."

      Also start your stories with the background information rather than the conspiracy fact.

      Now to put it all together:

      Bush 43's grandfather was involved with a plot to overthrow the US government when FDR was in power, his father had a weird role in the CIA when Robert Kennedy was killed, and he rigged the 2000 election with the help of his brother, and Bin Laden's siblings were at the white house the day of 9/11. I'm not trying to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but if there was anyone in the country that could pull off an inside job like 9/11 it was definitely this family.

      • Comraragi [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Bin Laden’s siblings were at the white house the day of 9/11.

        Meh they could have visited the WH anytime in a 6 month period before or after 9/11 and people would make this connection... You only need a good history book to understand US ties with Bin Laden not an inside job conspiracy.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Media criticism is a great place to start. If you get them on board with:

      1. Outlets like CNN and the NYT have repeatedly carried water for the State Department, and
      2. That's a reflection of the fact that they are more interested in upholding the interests of capitalism than with any sort of impartial reporting,

      You can get them on board with a lot of history those outlets sweep under the rug. Manufacturing Consent is perfect for this -- recognizable author who isn't too radical, and it painstakingly documents how most reporting is biased.

      Starting smaller also works. There's a great Citations Needed episode on how local news just blindly prints whatever cops tell them.

      • MyAltUserNameIsCool [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I love Citations Needed. It’s why I ended up on this website after their subreddit got banned. I haven’t caught every episode. Do you happen to remember around when that episode came out or what it was called?

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          https://soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-54-local-crime-reporting-as-racist-police-stenography

          :fidel-salute: to your taste in podcasts

  • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I mean, it's not like this is in any way a secret. Obama's mom worked for USAID within the state department.

    Not all of USAID is covert operations, but covert operations almost always have USAID involved one way or another. The situation in Bolivia has very deep ties to USAID where the recent coup was far from their first attempt at this stuff as they tried to split the country into 2 by promising to fund the more ancestrally European half of the country in the east post split.

    Probably the best example of the kind of work USAID is involved with was during the height Afghanistan war, the US government spent 10s of billions of dollars building roads to connect the entire country in the hope that it would help their puppet government control the country and take down the Taliban.

    Essentially their job is when a country is in shambles, use economic and soft power tools to rebuild it in a way that advantages the US, but a lot of the time this involves communicating willingness to help before any coup happens and that's when the CIA is involved.

  • OhWell [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I always wondered if Obama had links to the CIA, and this kinda don't surprise me.

    He rode into office under a wave progressivism and as soon as he got into power, they started dismantling his grassroots movement and working to reinforce the status quo. Obama turned out to be one of the greatest assets to the ruling class.

  • Mrtryfe [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Obama's stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, was in Suharto's military setup also, if I'm not mistaken. No coincidence at all.

    • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      This was covered the jakarta method. Basically Soetoro was stationed in Hawaii for a bit, then was transferred back to Indonesia and brought barack and his mom. Basically they got to enjoy all the fruits of the mass murder of 1 million plus civilians.

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    this tweet has now been deleted but is in the archive https://archive.is/vVlea