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You cannot leave me because I'm leaving you, well that situation solved itself. That said I am concerned about 196.
People are so caught up with hating hexbear users that the whole 196 mod drama is probably going to be overlooked. I'm waiting to see the statement from our instance mods before deciding if this place is really for me
if that screenshot of the mod log isn’t leaving out important context then this looks pretty bad, hexbear users aren’t alone in seeing a decent amount of reactionary language and talking points here in the past few weeks. in all fairness tho most of it probably isn’t intentional
Yeah I'm all out. I'll keep modding my art and nsfw comms (though they're somewhat inactive) but that's as far as I'll go.
I'm out of the loop. Whats going on with the mods on 196?
This contains the most recent issue: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/1989401
There was also leaking DMs, subtle transphobia / chaser issues (a bit like the reddit 196). If you read the hexbear post they have screenshots
They exited on mutual agreement I guess
Well technically not mutual agreement until/unless we also defederate from them. Which I still am in support of.
Isn’t it funny how there were no complaints until there was a post here asking about defederation?
There weren't any complaints until the mod of the second largest comm on this instance started throwing around slurs and leaking dms - also hexbear admins were unaware of previous chaser things the mod had publicly defended on 196 until a blahaj user brought it up in a thread about a blahaj user claiming enbys on hexbear were faking being non binary for clout (the enbyphobic comment was pretty swiftly deleted by the mods here after it was brought to their attention thankfully)
What chaser things have I defended?? I'm trans I don't see how I could be a chaser and I don't even know what I could do to earn the title. It seems like this post was never brought to our attention, because we check every report we receive and remove the ones that should be removed. What we don't check, however, is every post as we do not have the mod numbers for that. We can only see what you guys bring to our attention through reports.
A blahaj user posted a link to this screenshot of you publicly defending a cishet man talking about how they would like to have sex with a trans man and explicitly saying their fetishisation would be exactly negating what the trans man wanted to do with his body
*removed externally hosted image*
They provided additional context but since the comment was on a hexbear thread and hexbear is currently down I can't link to it unfortunately
Oh yeah I remember this whole fiasco. The argument was literally just attraction to body types/features versus attraction to genders. This person was expressing that they're only attracted to archetypaly "female" body features but are open to dating any one of any gender identity. The whole fight is basically just people thinking that they're fetishizing trans men when they're just expressing that well they're fine with dating someone with a masculine identity, they don't think it would work if the person wasn't comfortable in a feminine body. I don't really want to get into this again, but there's nothing wrong with that in it of itself.
Some folks refuse to believe there are different levels of dysphoria. Like so many things, it's a spectrum.
Seriously! I'm transfem, have been for years, 2 years on hormones, but I have no problem with my voice. Let it be masculine! Who the fuck cares. It doesn't matter! Lot of trans people feel similar ways about different things
Due to hormone issues, I was basically presented with a choice to transition if I wanted. It was a serious consideration that I had to make. Took over a year to decide. I wished I was fem (still kinda do) but I couldn't part with my lil buddy. Femboys weren't really a thing back then, so yeah. Not every GQ person needs to want to undergo GRS to "qualify" as trans. Gatekeepy bullshit.
They have a very different view of what constitutes an unsafe space, for the last day or so every time I saw a username with pronouns my whole body would tighten up anticipating some randomly aggressive attack post. I hate that they made me feel that way about something that should be good. I will not miss them.
One of them made a post on Egg_irl with Astolfo which seems to be almost saying that they think Femboys and GNC are just trans girls in denial. Really didn't sit well with me since I know that that kind of think is very hurtful to Femboys and has been very hurtful to me as well as an Agender.
That was me, I was referring to myself and how I personally came to realise I was trans through being a femboy, if it came off as offensive I'm sorry and I'll remove the post
Edit: hexbear is currently down so I can't, I'll remove the post as soon as hexbear comes back online
Edit 2: hexbear is still not coming back up so I'll report the post on this account and ask the mods to delete it, sorry for any discomfort I caused you
"Seeing pronouns gives me a panic attack, I'm not a transphobe, btw"
It's a shame to see the two instances split especially since I was pushing for the two instances to not defed pretty hard on the hexbear side, but the mod of one of the largest Comms being openly ableist, doubling down by deleting accusations of ableism then being ableist again in the removal reason and also defending chasers is pretty damning imo
I really wanted the two instances to stay federated and advocated for such, but now I'm not sure if I even want to be here. Here's hoping we can commandeer 196 and make sure it's based and doesn't end up like the reddit one
They posted a comment that included the word libt*rd and then deleted an anarchist hexbear users comment calling this out, then they called him "braindead" in one of the removal reasons for him pushing back on being accused of being a tankie iirc. After getting more push back on the initial comment they edited the slur out.
Edit: here's the link to their apology for the use of the slur in which they use the slur again: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/2092636
"I’ve also never called anyone slurs! I used a semi-slur in an extreme hypothetical example of what I wasn’t saying"
I didn't call anyone braindead, and I left the slur in so that people would know what I said, and what I was apologizing for.
That wasnt me the screenshot has the moderator responsible cropped out
I saw that, I've had a talk with my team about using better language when resolving reports. Stuff like this shouldn't be happening
I've edited the post to reflect that.
Though imo saying that it's not just one but multiple of the mods being ableist isn't the best of defenses
Edit: ok since hexbear doesn't seem to be coming back up I'll report it on this account asking one of the mods to delete it
Perfect outcome, they get to feel superior despite doing nothing - which is their only goal - and we get to clean their mess.
Is there really any mess? A 1x1 foot rug could cover any of it up.
This explains why my feed has been less hectic since I got on a few minutes ago.
Thank fuck. I was getting really tired of people picking fights everywhere over dumb shit.
I mean, if you’re unsatisfied, there’s an easy way to remedy that.
I think the fact that they’re fully defederating over accusations against a single community instead of just blocking that community is telling.
I'll take blahaj over HB in a heartbeat, but Ada did the exact same thing to lemmynsfw.
Nope. And especially in this instance as it is directly refutes the praise that the op was giving. Sorry, programming won't let me keep quiet on hypocrisy.
Yeah I saw. This shit has spiraled majorly, but a lot of their accusations are incredibly distorted versions of the truth, especially around the slurs. We remove slurs! I made an honest mistake, and immediately corrected it when called out, yet that has turned into accusations of ableism and transphobic behavior
Honestly, as an outsider, it seems like the majority of engagement from hexbear's side is extremely bad faith. Same vibes as twitter drama from couple years ago when twitter queers "cancelled" leftist and queer content creators and prominent figures for basically nothing. Like Contrapoints twitter drama. Or Lindsay Ellis twitter drama. Or second Contrapoints twitter drama, you get the point...
They must have done something that wasn’t a full defed or haven’t done it yet. I literally just had a hexbear user respond to me in a blahaj post
They can block specific communities like lemmy.world did with the major piracy community. If they have a problem with a specific community but not the rest of the instance, they didn't need to go so far as to defederate from the entire lemmy.blahaj.zone instance, though given current tensions between the two instances I doubt they'll be missed. Either way, it is a massive strength of the fediverse that when admins make these decisions, users can easily leave and move to another instance with very little hassle
