IIRC in the old chapo sub posts about Amber caused heated discussion, the predictable nature of which was mocked by a bot that replied "Amber." to every occurance of the word, regardless of context. Or at least that's my read on it, it's kind of an inscrutable bit.
If hating imperial conquest the world over makes me a running dog for imperialists, great, I guess.
Andrew Jackson and mao are 69ing each other right now.
Further, I can separately acknowledge that an authoritarian imperialist like mao is an embarrassment to his club by own-goaling his own people unlike anyone else on the planet lol
He fostered the power of the state, collaborated in systems to deplatform and imprison his own people without crime, and engaged in war in korea (acknowledged that china's help was requested, but war outside of own borders is imperial conflict). That makes you an imperialist in nature.
(acknowledged that china's help was requested, but war outside of own borders is imperial conflict)
So when Allied troops were marching in Berlin after Hitler blew his brains out, this is Allies imperialism against Germany? This doesn't even make sense from a liberal understanding of history lmao
This isn't imperialism. Note that I didn't argue about the authoritarian angle. Claiming that Mao is an imperialist is an insane stretch, even by the new standards I've been seeing liberals use it for.
Also, really the Korean war fits the bill? You should spend more time reading about what happened in the "forgotten war", what was happening in South Korea and what the US did to the North Koreans as part of that conflict. Blowback did a good season on it, but I think the thing I find particularly odd about you referencing it as Chinese imperialism is neglecting to acknowledge the entire US involvement in that conflict.
In all honesty you would be better off citing the invasion of Tibet (but even then a coursory reading and understanding of the theocratic fuedalistic state that existed there before this should really dispell a lot of nonsense).
Imperialism is the subordination of external markets for the extractive benefit of an overlord class in the core
It requires total control over a nation's foreign, legal, financial and military policy to undertake a conscious and planned underdevelopment and deindustrialization policy
Its also requires centralization of local capital in imperial hands, export of said capital to the core, tiers of citizenship, unequal legal rights, enclosure movements, enforced segregation and racialization of populations
None of that describes Mao's China, but it does describe the majority of euro/anglo states during the twentieth century
Hey @GBU_28@lemm.ee post hog
America bad, china bad, but you oughta post the original comment I called out. Doesn't really matter though.
Andrew Jackson was a monster, and so was mao.
Neither country "elevated humanity" or whatever, and never will.
Cya!
Hey @GBU_28@lemm.ee how does it feel to be a running dog for imperialists?
Amber.
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I do not understand this bit.
IIRC in the old chapo sub posts about Amber caused heated discussion, the predictable nature of which was mocked by a bot that replied "Amber." to every occurance of the word, regardless of context. Or at least that's my read on it, it's kind of an inscrutable bit.
Amber.
If hating imperial conquest the world over makes me a running dog for imperialists, great, I guess.
Andrew Jackson and mao are 69ing each other right now.
Further, I can separately acknowledge that an authoritarian imperialist like mao is an embarrassment to his club by own-goaling his own people unlike anyone else on the planet lol
How was mao an imperialist?
He fostered the power of the state, collaborated in systems to deplatform and imprison his own people without crime, and engaged in war in korea (acknowledged that china's help was requested, but war outside of own borders is imperial conflict). That makes you an imperialist in nature.
So when Allied troops were marching in Berlin after Hitler blew his brains out, this is Allies imperialism against Germany? This doesn't even make sense from a liberal understanding of history lmao
I don't think that person has a liberal understanding of history, there's at least some firmly lodged fascist brainworms at play as well.
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This isn't imperialism. Note that I didn't argue about the authoritarian angle. Claiming that Mao is an imperialist is an insane stretch, even by the new standards I've been seeing liberals use it for.
Also, really the Korean war fits the bill? You should spend more time reading about what happened in the "forgotten war", what was happening in South Korea and what the US did to the North Koreans as part of that conflict. Blowback did a good season on it, but I think the thing I find particularly odd about you referencing it as Chinese imperialism is neglecting to acknowledge the entire US involvement in that conflict.
In all honesty you would be better off citing the invasion of Tibet (but even then a coursory reading and understanding of the theocratic fuedalistic state that existed there before this should really dispell a lot of nonsense).
tbh I thought he'd go with the occupation of Tibet, Xinjiang, etc. Absolutely wild take about the Korean War and wars generally.
The power of the state fucking rules when it throws clowns like you into the pit
Real clown hours who up
lmao real baby-brained shit
You literally dont know what imperialism is
Imperialism is the subordination of external markets for the extractive benefit of an overlord class in the core
It requires total control over a nation's foreign, legal, financial and military policy to undertake a conscious and planned underdevelopment and deindustrialization policy
Its also requires centralization of local capital in imperial hands, export of said capital to the core, tiers of citizenship, unequal legal rights, enclosure movements, enforced segregation and racialization of populations
None of that describes Mao's China, but it does describe the majority of euro/anglo states during the twentieth century
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Do you think it would have been better for China to leave Korea to be destroyed by America?
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Ok so you are now defending America's attempted genocide of the Korean peninsula. Great