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Almost everything being hyped in this year's CitizenCON has been hyped in previous years, often under slightly different naming. capitalist-laugh

    • KimJongGoku [comrade/them]
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      5 days ago

      As a normie who's only heard a few bits of Star Citizen second hand, my mental image for "only Star Citizen can do this" is the player character insrantly falling to the planet's core while assuming limb configurations not yet seen by man because the physics engine is too busy simulating the inner parts of a coffee machine in the room next door.

      Maybe just shooting for "generic AAA" wouldn't be so bad at this point

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
        hexagon
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        5 days ago

        As a normie who's only heard a few bits of Star Citizen second hand

        You might really enjoy this video series. It's old now, but almost nothing has meaningfully changed in Star Citizen since these stopped coming out so the videos are still timely and very fucking funny, especially when they get into the "ship sales Tetris" sequence and "whale fracking."

        https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7SIP0NDfM2yyHKfRmCAociCcJKZHHY0E

      • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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        5 days ago

        Maybe just shooting for "generic AAA" wouldn't be so bad at this point

        There's been quite a few great spaceship games like this in the past 10 or so years, too.

        • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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          5 days ago

          Best spaceship game out right now is Cosmoteer, IMO. It's 2D and mostly created by one guy (he managed to hire some additional help after getting some cash). The game still gets major updates - for free - with more on the way.

          The next best spaceship game is Faster Than Light, but it was finished years ago and the devs have moved on to other projects. They'll update the game for bugs and maintenance, but not major content updates.

    • Snackuleata [any]
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      5 days ago

      Think like the train rides in Half Life.

      That's their horizons for what's impressive? Video game tech from over two decades ago? Truly this justifies the decade of development hell and the small country's worth of GDP burnt.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
        hexagon
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        5 days ago

        They're stale, boring, aging reactionary gamedads that haven't really gotten committed to an actually new game since... fuck... Crysis, maybe?

        One of the prevalent slogans among the gamedads in the official forums really is "make space sims great again" so you can guess the boomer-ass and Gen-X-junior-boomer-ass overlap.

        If you look at CitizenCON attendee footage, it's flashbang aged up a few decades.

        • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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          5 days ago

          Crysis, maybe?

          The game that was largely just a way to wank off over how much money you spent on stupid video game bullshit? Couldn't be MY Star Citizen patriots!

          president-parrot-patriotic

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
            hexagon
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            5 days ago

            Store Citizen kelly used CryEngine as a basis for its jank machine because Chris Roberts is very very smart and saw the le epic graphics in a small group shooter intended for island sized maps and decided "this should be the engine of an entire fucking star system, then 100 of them!"

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      5 days ago

      When the super cinematic epic interactive movie about space fascist Roman LARPers is also a super open ended do anything be anything sandbox of infinite spankbank wish fulfillment possibilities just like le OASIS in the Ready Player Onerinos where each mission will allow infinite deviation from course but also still make sense as a le epic cinematic masterpiece of space fascist Roman LARPing. Also there will be all the same tired story beats from Wing Commander but worse but that's okay because you can wander off into space at any time or hide in the wankpod morshupls

    • buckykat [none/use name]
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      5 days ago

      Maybe if all your "cool systems" bring you to gameplay indistinguishable from CoD they weren't so cool after all

    • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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      5 days ago

      Saying "fine gunplay is enough"? The fans really tolerate anything, even getting an average shooter when you were supposed to get a space flight game.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
        hexagon
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        5 days ago

        A mediocre game with unremarkable gameplay is the greatest thing ever if invisible background tech magic is happening morshupls

  • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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    5 days ago

    So the new Gundam on Netflix is out and I got mixed feelings about it. On one hand, it's great seeing a Gundam from the other side: a terrifying WMD that has a pilot inside who manually kills entire armies. The action sequences look good. The mobile suits move similarly to how they did in 8th. MS Team.

    The bad news is the dialog and human faces. Really wooden and uncanny valley for both. But the thing that has everyone pissed off is the Zeon whitewashing. The series takes place during the original One Year War. The war that started when a bunch of space fascists dropped an entire colony out of space onto Earth and killed millions of people before invading the surface. This is only mentioned towards the end of the series when a Federation soldier brings it up. There isn't a single "Sieg Zeon!" You know, the main slogan of the Zeeks that's meant to shove it in your face they're the space fascists and they're the bad guys. They're an analogy for Imperial Japan and Japan's excuses for terrorizing their neighbors.

    There's even more bullshit at the end about the Zeon Remnants (who are "The South Will Rise Again!" of Gundam), but I'm rambling. The point I'm getting to is Erasmus Brosdau directed the series. He previously worked on Star Citizen. So yeah, Star Citizen is now shitting up other projects with its techbro fuckwads because they leave as money dries up instead of staying in their containment zone.

    • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      5 days ago

      I haven't watched it yet, but I heard that the director did some Warhammer 40k fan film before this, so my full expectation is over-your-head "Wow! Cool Space Prussians!" hitler-detector

      So many UC spinoffs miss out on the interesting bit about Zeon - that they were a colonized people whose anti-Imperial movement got co-opted by monarchists and fascists. There's space for Zeon to be sympathetic, like the Africa arc in ZZ, but I think the 0080 and 0083 OVAs dialing up the Zeon aesthetics = super German/nazi really pushed the gross military otaku obsession with them.

      Also - the new show looks like total ass, and I say this as someone who enjoyed MS IGLOO lol

      • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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        5 days ago

        Lord Inquisitor was good, especially since it leaned into Inquisitors are often no more than crooked cops. So I figured Requiem might have a similar tone. LOL nope.

        But yeah. Zeon is so on-the-nose Imperial Japan: a country fighting off European colonizers only to become colonizers themselves that carried out some of the worst atrocities in human history. Like you say, though, this has attracted otaku and wehrbs. Bandai isn't going to chase them away because they buy merch.

    • Hexboare [they/them]
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      5 days ago

      Freelancer: the "Chris Roberts didn't get sacked in the first couple years" edition

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      5 days ago

      So did I, so did I.

      I was disappointed of course, but at least I didn't actually put money into the grift.

    • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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      5 days ago

      Ironically enough, Freelancer still has a niche online playerbase and modding community.

  • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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    5 days ago

    Almost everything being hyped in this year’s CitizenCON has been hyped in previous years, often under slightly different naming.

    Stellaris team should totally release Horizon Signal 2 mocking them "WHAT WAS, WILL BE. WHAT WILL BE, WAS"

  • SexUnderSocialism [she/her]
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    5 days ago

    My special dunk tank reserved for Chris' retirement fund has been virtually exhausted at this point (at least until he pulls another dead rabbit out of his hat) so I'll leave you with another one of my edits as a fine addition to your collection:

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    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      5 days ago

      They have said it for years already, and they're getting increasingly efficient at saying it.

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