Everyone who is anti choice and against gay marriage belongs in a re education camp
Nah, they wont go away. I means they will. Then they be back again.
The big parties are trying to make this the eternal battle ground.
It doesn't have my favorite one :( I always thought ren/renny was cute it comes from the ren in parent.
dammy does sound weird though
Ya probably.
This will be really interesting. A lot of the gay men I know have started dabbling in Republican reactionary territory because they're comfortable and not that oppressed any more, so it'll be interesting watching them rubberband back to radicalization because Republicans invalidated their marriage.
Hopefully this makes libs start demanding court packing, see that Democrats don't give a fuck what libs demand, and ultimately leads to more extreme libs.
I've heard plenty of trans folks and bi/pansexuals say that the worst discrimination they receive is from the gay community.
I credit gays for fighting for the safe spaces they've deservedly won. But we should hope for more in an oppressive system than for the chance to do the oppressing.
I think the real problem is that one of the sole goals of the LGBT community was essentially "accept us in to the bourgeois marriage construct," so as soon as that was done, bourgeois LGB people could flake because they can't immediate gain anything from supporting other LGB people. Pure Liberalism.
There are the folks who celebrate Stonewall and then there are the folks who think Obergfell could have happened without it.
Naw, these issues are way too useful to string along both chuds and liberals alike. Look how effective the spectre of Roe has been this cycle for both riling up Trump's base and manufacturing consent for Biden. Much more useful to keep fearmongering about it without ever actually taking that step.
A carrot on a stick loses its effectiveness if you actually feed it to the donkey. They'll keep waving this carrot around right up until the system collapses.
Trump himself and his idiot Evangelical supporters might be oblivious to this game, but the party leadership and the judges themselves almost certainly aren't.
Much more useful to keep fearmongering about it without ever actually taking that step.
This is true to an extent, but you can only do the Charlie Brown football gag so many times before the base refuses to be fooled. This is essentially what happened to the Republican Party with Trump's election. The Neocons may still be pulling the levers on "boring" foreign policy matters, but they have entirely lost the party to the tea party and qanon cranks. The Democrats have been more successful in smothering their populists, but they too will reach a breaking point.
You bring up a good point.
I do think that Trump's base has shown a remarkable capacity for coming up with excuses for his failure, though. I could easily see them coming up with a new Q theory about how the deep state sickos and Crissey Teigen sabotaged his holy mission to save the babies, but if we just trust the plan then in 2024 blah blah blah
But you are right that even they must have a breaking point eventually, and it may be that even Trump can't control them for much longer without providing some sort of victory.
I think Roe might be toast. I get the point that Republicans need to keep it around to get Evangelicals riled up, but frankly it's no longer in the GOP's hands. It's all about how the 6 conservative justices on the court will rule on Roe given a direct attack. I feel 3 of them (Thomas, Alito, and Amy Kevin Garnett) will definitely vote to overturn. It only takes 2 of the other 3, so who knows.
And if Roe is overturned, that's only the beginning of the fight for evangelicals and catholics. All overturning Roe does is make it a state issue. So probably 35-40 states keep abortion legal, and 10-15 backwards-ass states make it illegal. The next step for evangelicals, and what they will be fighting tooth and nail for, is a national abortion ban. Just need a GOP president and control of both houses to make that happen. And maybe that doesn't happen until 2024 at the earliest, but I guarantee you anti-abortionists will be pushing hard for it.
If the filibuster goes away and Democrats win Congress/White House then legislation about this could pass
