I just stated the meaning of the turn of phrase they used because it looked like you didn't know what it meant.
Then you somehow managed
to misgender them twice, when we all have our pronouns right next to our names, in a thread about a fucking pronoun struggle session.
You then argued that "I can see [thing i predict]" isn't a turn of phrase (it is)
Then you accused me of "white knighting" but tried to be cute about it
Does "turn of phrase" mean something different in British land, you literally don't know what the term means, since you confused a declarative statement that used the word "see" as an Intransitive Verb, there is no expression being used, they clearly thought they would literally see (as in the action of seeing regarding the action of reading) a state of alienation as a result of the struggle session
If they used the word "see" as an idiom then their comment is gibberish
Then you somehow managed to misgender them twice,
Yeah I don't know any trans people in real life so this doesn't come easily, I have to think and check before I type, and I got your pronouns stuck in my head instead thanks to your reflexive white knighting
It's not idiomatic, "I can see" is a positive declarative statement using an INTRANSITIVE VERB "see" to lead into another positive declarative statement in the form of a prediction, there's no "turning" because the phrase was already clear, there's no allusion
Neither the Merriam Webster, the Oxford English, nor the Cambridge dictionaries make any indication there needs to be allusion, it just means "a way of saying something"
MW Cambridge
Oxford isn't available online as far as i can tell, but I checked in my physical one
It only means something when used as a synonym for "idiom" which is why I've been disagreeing with you this whole time, THEY did not use an idiom which is why I asked them if they had anything to back up their declarative statement/prediction, then you went CRAZY!!! or as the brits say BONKERS!!! and tried to lop my head off
Well nephew I hope you learned a valuable lesson today
I CAN SEE THING HAPPENING IS A TURN OF PHRASE
YOU SAID IT ISN'T A TURN OF PHRASE
THAT IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN ARGUING
AND YOUR WEIRD DEFLECTIONS INTO MY NON EXISTENT WHITE KNIGHTING THAT I HAVENT BEEN DOING
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Not "defending them" at any point in this conversation, but ok
Edit: and I'm not downvoting you, except the two misgendering comments up top
This thread is literally on their behalf, that is LOVE bruh and don't you deny it
So there's two of them huh, damn got yourself a Donkey and Puss-y in Boots
I just stated the meaning of the turn of phrase they used because it looked like you didn't know what it meant.
Then you somehow managed to misgender them twice, when we all have our pronouns right next to our names, in a thread about a fucking pronoun struggle session.
You then argued that "I can see [thing i predict]" isn't a turn of phrase (it is)
Then you accused me of "white knighting" but tried to be cute about it
That's it
That's all this thread is
Does "turn of phrase" mean something different in British land, you literally don't know what the term means, since you confused a declarative statement that used the word "see" as an Intransitive Verb, there is no expression being used, they clearly thought they would literally see (as in the action of seeing regarding the action of reading) a state of alienation as a result of the struggle session
If they used the word "see" as an idiom then their comment is gibberish
Yeah I don't know any trans people in real life so this doesn't come easily, I have to think and check before I type, and I got your pronouns stuck in my head instead thanks to your reflexive white knighting
Want me to say it again
"I can see [thing i predict]" is an idiomatic way of saying "i predict [thing i predict]" which is what a turn of phrase is
And i literally have not defended them at all in this entire thread, go back and read it.
It's not idiomatic, "I can see" is a positive declarative statement using an INTRANSITIVE VERB "see" to lead into another positive declarative statement in the form of a prediction, there's no "turning" because the phrase was already clear, there's no allusion
Neither the Merriam Webster, the Oxford English, nor the Cambridge dictionaries make any indication there needs to be allusion, it just means "a way of saying something"
MW
Cambridge
Oxford isn't available online as far as i can tell, but I checked in my physical one
It's almost like the term is devoid of content and only makes sense when used as a synonym for "idiom"
You should both log off for a while.
Never!
Also fuck me, i can barely read this it's so squashed lol
you're right, but at the same time they should keep going because it's hilarious
Heck nah, I'm winning Dad
So you now argue that turn of phrase doesn't mean anything when proven wrong?
Lol
It only means something when used as a synonym for "idiom" which is why I've been disagreeing with you this whole time, THEY did not use an idiom which is why I asked them if they had anything to back up their declarative statement/prediction, then you went CRAZY!!! or as the brits say BONKERS!!! and tried to lop my head off
Well nephew I hope you learned a valuable lesson today
I CAN SEE THING HAPPENING IS A TURN OF PHRASE
YOU SAID IT ISN'T A TURN OF PHRASE
THAT IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN ARGUING
AND YOUR WEIRD DEFLECTIONS INTO MY NON EXISTENT WHITE KNIGHTING THAT I HAVENT BEEN DOING
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
It's a turn of phrase if you have a dumb definition of the term "turn of phrase"
I have a superior definition, which means I win
You can consider school out of session 👍
fuck it
ok