• Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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    11 months ago

    honestly I'm still shocked people are buying into Reagan's welfare queen nonsense 40+ fucking years later

      • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
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        11 months ago

        Or Hispanic or native American or an immigrant

        Immigrants aren't even eligible for EBT until they're citizens but it doesn't stop the whining from the right

        • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]
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          11 months ago

          Yeah, their propaganda outlets tell them that immigrants are eligible for everything and are indeed sucking up most of it.

          • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
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            11 months ago

            When in reality all they're eligible for is WIC if they're pregnant or a young mother

              • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
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                11 months ago

                And their children as anything more valuable to society than an anchor baby for their parents to stay in the US

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    • GreenMario@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      Absolutely a plant. Nashville has been an arm of conservative propaganda since at least 9/11.

    • 7bicycles [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      Yeah…he lives on 90 acres of land that he wants to build a farm on and raise livestock. Doesn’t exactly scream “working class.”

      I mean props to them for using the well documented "equating farmer (owns land) with farmer (does farm work)", it does usually trick people

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        • 7bicycles [he/him]
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          10 months ago

          Rocking up the working class bank to get a loan for a 90 acre property

          • huf [he/him]
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            10 months ago

            nah, i hear if you tell them you've never worked a day in your life and plan to suck the teat of the state forever, they'll just give you a -1000% loan with a one cent down payment

            and then you can just get your 90 acres.

            remember, it's the homeless who are the real landlords.

  • Zink@programming.dev
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    10 months ago

    This song does such a good job with communicating the conservaive trinity:

    • persecution complex
    • mad about things they themselves voted for
    • mad that the other is getting something, which is obviously undeserved
  • JoYo@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    I was at guitar center shopping for a nylon classical and this kid was singing that Oliver guy's one song in the acoustic room.

    When he finished I told him that song is about me.

    He also played wonder wall, no joke, 10 times.

  • SootySootySoot [any]
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    10 months ago

    Corporate subsidies and corporate tax evasion are always in competition for big dollar values. Not to mention unpaid wages.

    Meanwhile there are POOR people getting some FOOD??!??!?

  • ColorcodedResistor@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    id be willing to wager a $20 he used A.I. software and tweaked it for these lyrics. everyone commenting has been skirting, what i think, to be just a new trend in bait music.

    The song is bad yet just cognitive enough to cause a stir.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      "Yeah, rich people take orders of magnitudes more money from society in order to reinvest it in very concretely destroying society further, but did you consider that someone who was over-prescribed opiods as part of a deliberate campaign by the Sacklers also take up money coping with the addiction they ended up with?"

      Fuck off. There are important societal benefits to welfare, while corporate bailouts and the like are a cancer intended only to give the rich more money.

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      I have seen homeless who buy bottled water on SNAP only to dump and resell the bottles so they could get cash for their addictions.

      If you're going to lie, why make up the most nonsensical lie imaginable?

      • American_Badass [none/use name]
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        11 months ago

        Surely it's a bit, LMAO. How is that something that could even be witnessed? Where is the open air empt water bottle market even located? :data-laughing:

        • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          You can return empty bottles in some states, but it's for 5 cents. The guy I spoke to last Thursday about his fentanyl addiction told me he needed about $100 to get his fix for the day back when he used. It's just absurd.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        If you're going to lie, why make up the most nonsensical lie imaginable?

        Worked for Reagan. freedom-and-democracy

      • Sinonatrix [comrade/them]
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        11 months ago

        I've seen this first hand a good few times - believe me or not because I don't want to be too specific about my experience. You've got to be super desperate to pour out a 40 count of bottled water for $2-4, but people with nothing else but SNAP/EBT/etc funds will do it.

        It's sad and wasteful, but it's also such a marginal thing compared to the Sacklers making the opium wars look like a prank that I don't see how it can even brought up in the same conversation - except as deflection.

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          I've seen no shortage of people reselling water bottles with water in them (common especially in places with lots of tourists) but just selling the fucking bottles?

          • Sinonatrix [comrade/them]
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            11 months ago

            If you live in a state with a bottle deposit. The $0.05-0.10 is paid with the government aid, but returned as cash to the redeemer. It's a poor and laborious return on investment, but doesn't require actually hustling to sell water like that to tourists.

        • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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          [Removed a bit too much hostility.]

          I work with homeless people, many of whom have substance abuse issues. I've heard of all sorts of ways to get money for drugs (by the way, $2-4 isn't going to get that done, not even close) and have never heard of anything close to this ridiculous.

          It's unbelievable. As someone else pointed out, with selling them you're looking at $40, not $2-4, for standing at an intersection or in a park. And you don't need to do it 30-40 times to get your fix.

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            • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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              11 months ago

              If opiods were as cheap as this person claims and as deadly as cops claim, the U.S. would have dropped them on Afghanistan, not encouraged the locals to grow them.

    • WIIHAPPYFEW [he/him, they/them]
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      11 months ago

      Show

      “The homeless people were on the streets making welfare fraud and I saw one of the welfare frauds and the welfare fraud looked at me.”

    • KurtVonnegut [comrade/them]
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      11 months ago

      If you are more angry against some poor people addicted to opioids than you are against the billionaire oligarchs who made their money off of addicting millions of people to opioids... you might have a severe case of myopia.

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      • Infamousblt [any]
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        11 months ago

        No but I have seen homeless people picking up other's littered recycling and taking it to the grocery store for the pennies deposit and that's basically the same thing

    • chauncey [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      Ah yes someone selling a few dollars of milk is definitely the same as a corporation stealing millions. Ah yes. These two are the same.

    • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      Idk man, just seems like small potatoes, and rare. Everyone has to eat and I find it doubtful that the skinny EBT amounts will fund an addict's lifestyle significantly if the food is resold on the secondary market.

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      11 months ago

      Why would i not be mad at that just as I am at how corporate bailouts didnt help anyone except the top .01% of society?

      You could start by having the tiniest bit of class consciousness instead of being a fucking serf.

    • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]
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      11 months ago

      Why would i not be mad at that just as I am at how corporate bailouts didnt help anyone except the top .01% of society?

      Scale. The amount that the capitalists steal from you is orders of magnitude larger than whatever infinitesimal amount of tax dollars (well, more accurately, cents) you lose because an unhoused person used a loophole to buy drugs. Personally I can't even imagine being angry at the two people you mentioned. Nor is there a realistic way to prevent those things that wouldn't punish the 99% of people who just use EBT to buy food like its intended.

      (I also really don't care if people find a way to use EBT money to buy something else in general. Like I can't think of a single reason to be bothered by that. And I life off EBT and only ever use it the "correct" way.)

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      11 months ago

      wow, I can't believe someone would commit moral failures such as buying an iphone. the absolute outrage.

      sounds like people shouldn't be impoverished. that's the conclusion you should be drawing, not this moral crusader thing of looking down your nose at impoverished people. If poor people are doing things you find distasteful, why not focus your energy on the people who create and spread poverty in the first place? and no, that's not poor people. It's the capitalists and their servants in the state

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      “The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.” ― Anatole France

  • Takatakatakatakatak@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    11 months ago

    It's pretty funny that the expectation on any man who picks up a guitar these days is not that he has a decent voice to go with, it's that his political ideology is "correct" and cohesive and that he makes sure to convey the entire thing in a 4 minute song.

    The people getting their knickers in twist over this song are lost.

      • Psionicsickness@reddthat.com
        cake
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        10 months ago

        Why is it always race? I understand the welfare queen myth, but nothing about that song made me reflect on skin color.

        Maybe it's just you.

          • Psionicsickness@reddthat.com
            cake
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            10 months ago

            Valid point. Hadn't considered that. Really stirred some self reflection in me and casual readers of this thread. Bravo.

            • Ardipithecus [he/him]
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              10 months ago

              How about replying to this: https://hexbear.net/comment/3787472

        • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]
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          10 months ago

          The "welfare queen" myth was always a racist dogwhistle from the jump. This is well documented. The "you're the real racist for noticing racism" bullshit isnt going to fly here.

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        • huf [he/him]
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          10 months ago

          it's the US, it's safe to assume a thing about it is racist without even checking, because the US rests on a foundation of racism and it has seeped into every aspect of it.

          but this one's racist even if you do research it.

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        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          Exploitative gacha trash on phones are objectively the best made games in the world because they make the most money. galaxy-brain

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                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                  11 months ago

                  Unlike you, with dad's boat dealership and the hard work you've done minding your manners and doing chores so you get the boat dealership someday! bootlicker

                  • Takatakatakatakatak@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    11 months ago

                    He's literally singing about being part of a downtrodden underclass, but you and your juvenile half-formed political ideology make it all seem so simple. White skin = oppressor, right?

                    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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                      11 months ago

                      He's literally singing about being part of a downtrodden underclass,

                      He's literally stealing valor to pander to poor people, and a specific subset given the "welfare queen" rhetoric.

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                        • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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                          11 months ago

                          Why are these people so extreme?! All i did was expose my rascism. Can't a white man just talk about hating people and be respected as superior to those he hates anymore!

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                        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                          10 months ago

                          insane

                          You apparently believe anyone who disagrees with you is mentally ill which by your presented context means they are loathsome and deserving of hatred because you don't like them and like to call people you don't like insane.

                          In other words, you're an ableist hateful piece of shit. Get flushed.

                • Infamousblt [any]
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                  11 months ago

                  Libs and wearing bigotry like a badge of honor, name a more iconic duo

        • Infamousblt [any]
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          11 months ago

          So you admit that kpop is fantastic music then, since kpop is wildly internationally successful.

        • ComRed2 [any]
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          10 months ago

          I will enjoy your removed by mod posts very much.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      It's pretty funny

      This isn't Reddit and saying "it's funny" doesn't hide your rage against people that weren't born as comfortable as you were.

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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      11 months ago

      I don't think that's what this is about. I don't have that kind of expectation of musicians. But if a musician chooses to sing about being a chud i think they should get dunked on

        • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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          11 months ago

          Sorry, I'm used to people familiar with our lingo. But, a guy who's angry about "welfare queens" is a pretty good example. Fascists, conservatives, rascists, xenophobes, right-wingers, homophobes, frothingfash etc. are chuds. If any comrades have a better definition I'll defer to that, but this is how I'd describe it off the top of my head

  • stigsbandit34z [they/them]
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    10 months ago

    You’re telling me that in the year of our lord 2023, people believe that welfare alone is enough to cover housing, food, and clothing? This really ought to set anyone with a brain completely off. You know how much you get from the government on welfare? Not even 500 fucking dollars

    LMFAO how brainwashed can you possibly be?

  • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
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    10 months ago

    The best part is the line immediately before it. "We got hungry people on the streets" or something similar, right before complaining about food stamps.

    If giving the hungry poor and homeless people free food isn't their solution to "we got hungry people on the streets" I wonder what is...

    Also there's a weird as fuck line where he complains that we care too much about minors on islands (Epstein) and not enough about miners. Is that really the issue? Too much emphasis on billionaire pedophiles?