sorry start speculating so early, but I'm really curious

like, who the hell will Republicans run next? Their Trump card is used up (fuck you I won't apologize for that). I don't really see anyone else with his broad appeal to take the mantel. Like, maybe some figure in this upcoming administration emerges, but... I don't really see how. Seems like they're stuck running just another party apparatchik.

...

The liberals in the walls whisper, they say "Trump is gonna install himself as lifelong dictator! Vance will inherit the throne! It's the end of US democracy!!!"

i remember when my grandpa said the dems were gonna crown Obama as king.


And in that case... Dems might actually feel like they have to do a real campaign, rather than just bang the "orange fascist" gong a bunch more.

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 month ago

    i think it depends how much of a shitshow the next 4 years is, especially in terms of imperial aggression. probably trumps greatest sin was having an administration that could not prosecute empire effectively. failed coups in latam, the afghanistan drawdown, inconsistent saber rattling towards eastern powers (Russia) and states DPRK belligerent to our proxies (SK). not to mention, he kept threatening the western NATO agreement. i think all of that combined set off alarms and caused capital formations to step in and commit to the rhetorical delegitimization of trump as a political actor across all media and the elevation of biden (a war hawk for his entire life) as the tonic to cure america.

    the vaguely center-left was removed from the playing field in possibly an ever bigger rat fuck than 2016, despite winning the first 3 primaries and many voters just wanted the weariness of the trump era to end. we talk about it as "brunch is back" and its true it is a lot about vibes, but i do remember the constant drum banging about whatever fresh new corrupted horror was happening in the whitehouse. like every day there was something new that was fucked, and rather than obscure it like the media does for other presidents, they showed us all of it in full horror. a lot of apolitical people just wanted that to stop so they could go back the world before.

    of course, the liberals took that mandate and libbed it up real good so america is still fucked and full of people looking down the barrel of a future with somehow less material security and, for those looking close enough, all the features of trump are still here: the carceral state, the war mongering, the no-healthcare-for-you, the murder cops continuing to do all the murders, etc. and jesus christ, biden's brain was fucking gone on live TV. so the biden coalition collapsed abruptly. kamala's political machine tried to pop the clutch near the finish line and go from zero to 100 but instead tore its drivetrain apart and rolled into a ditch, because it was a completely frame rusted 1995 Chevy Blazer with a really slick paint job being operated by committee of hand selected idiots with only one message for the natsec state: the wars will continue!

    so now we get another trump term. and frankly, i think what happens inside the core is going to be second place to how he upholds or undermines the western-backed mission to maintain a unipolar world, especially in terms of the Far East and MENA. if he lays back and lets the administrative state run it, we might get another anointed republican who can play ball with the natsec state. but if he gets hands on, acts mercurial with allies, puts his own incompetent weirdos in charge and seeks to use his influence to control the selection of a successor, i think capital will shut it down and cram another neolib on us.

  • dat_math [they/them]
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    1 month ago

    Their Trump card is used up (fuck you I won't apologize for that).

    2028: Trump vs Obamna

  • Philote@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    Bush family 2.0 Idiot son/daughter propped up to continue daddy’s image. 100% guided by puppet strings from the Heritage foundation.

  • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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    1 month ago

    If it's not Vance, it'll be some other Koch/Mercer/Theil-backed candidate. They've got plenty of them out there building up careers.

    • Wheaties [she/her]
      hexagon
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      1 month ago

      It's not so much that I don't think there aren't other's who are eager to take is place, it's that I don't think they have the television zeal to satisfy his audience.

      • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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        1 month ago

        Hmm, we'll see. I think there's so many grifters out there cutting their teeth and four years for them to openly go mask off that I doubt it's gonna be an issue. A lot of the dc assholes started toning down their rhetoric over Jan 6 and all the legal cases. Now that's no longer an issue, I think the next four years are gonna be like some fucked up right wing reality show to get his blessing. And of course the media will happily give them a platform while clutching their pearls.

  • D61 [any]
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    1 month ago

    It dawns on me that the Trumps could become another among the political dynasties of the USA.

    Listed on the pages of textbooks next to the Bushes, the Kennedys, the Clintons.

    Mount Rushmore updated for the early 2000's.

    thinking-about-it

  • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    Am I the only one feeling a tad apathetic? I watched libs totally ignore a genocide, as well as Dems cutting away at the acceptable types of queer. And now Trump is in charge and I find it hard to believe half the stress and panic is that Dems have spent so much time puffing him up. I kind of doubt he'll be sending out ant-gay mercs on random teens and will instead spend this cycle mucking about.

    I cut out like half of my friends (many of them trans and gay) over the past year when they were riding Kamala and justifying Nazi shit out of the blue.

  • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    Who gives a fuck, we commies do what we do. Let the capitalists have their little game. Agitate educate organise baybyyyyy

  • Lussy [any, hy/hym]
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    1 month ago

    They’ll run the demon that is Vance and Democrats will be even more fucked because they’ll have no answer against an ‘normal’ white guy with decorum

  • miz [any, any]
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    1 month ago

    Vance beats Newsom with 334 electoral votes

    • D61 [any]
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      1 month ago

      Runs third party to avenge his father's legacy by spilling the political blood of the Democratic party.

  • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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    1 month ago

    Unfortunately, I'd say that the GOP is spoiled for choice: JD Vance, Ron DeSantis, Tucker Carlson, Richard Spencer, Mark Robinson, Charlie Kirk, Tom Cotton, Ben Shapiro, Ted Cruz, Tulsi Gabbard, just to name a few. All of them are admittedly charismatic figures that can easily take Trump's place.

    I have no idea who the dems will send out. If I had my choice of the next "Bernie is the compromise" it would be Nina Turner, she's the closest I can think of to Bernie's right hand person.

  • someone [comrade/them, they/them]
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    1 month ago

    And in that case... Dems might actually feel like they have to do a real campaign, rather than just bang the "orange fascist" gong a bunch more.

    I'd actually bet on them continuing as the paid puppets of Wall Street, quietly propping up multiple Trump successors to split the base, and hoping that it's enough to put them in power without either the popular vote or having to abandon their wealthy donors.