"To cool everyone’s jets, you will be getting your slop back,"
The slop was only the catalyst. The issue quickly became that mod statement misgendering much of the site(and having an un-CWed self harm reference), harassment against people who were against it, and the fact that other lemmy mods got told before we did. Is there any plan to address those issues?
Yeah are there going to be any consequences for whoever cooked up 20 alt accounts to harrass everyone that disagreed with them, and tell users that they should kys/their parents should never had them/should have been killed? On top of purposeful misgendering and claiming that a user who exclusively used they/them pronouns was actually a cisgender man. I really did not care about this issue much, until that started.
I'd really like some general consequences for a good part of the mod team as a whole. This wasn't just an issue with one person, they were just the most egregious member, but they've been allowed to hang around for far too long. On top of that there were a lot of bullshit coming from those mods - "white cishet" being the top of a big turdpile.
And despite that whole statement being a terrible thing to say, it wasn't even true, you can go view the locked dredge tank community right now, I think only 4/20 posts on the front page were made by someone using he/him as their primary pronouns, 3/20 using she/her, and 3/20 using comrade/them. Certainly does not seem like a white cishet dominated community to me.
Yeah it's almost as if we have some shitty mods that are powertripping like they're on reddit, who use leftist rhetoric to shield their abysmal behaviour
Amazing that they get banned while the user that straight up misgendered them and told everyone to go die on their dozen alt accounts has likely faced zero consequences, just great.
Pretty sure the alts have already been banned, what people are wondering is if the user who created them is going to be dealt with or not. The user is supposedly a mod.
Edit: Never mind, didn't see your reply further down.
The poweruser/powermod thing is pretty much an unreconcilable contradiction of this site given how small the active user base is. I just came off like a two year break and I instantly recognised most of the names still posting lol.
Edit: I mean we’re literally commenting on a post made by someone who left for three years and just came back and was returned as an admin based on name recognition. No shade on TC personally but it’s pretty indicative of how things operate.
I assume there's not an easy way to track the original user but I'd again put down good money it was HelltakerHomosexual, just going through their modlog and comparing it to the bile the alt accounts were spewing the past couple days. Even discounting recent events I rarely see them coming in to threads to do anything but insult other users.
Also not having ownership of who has actually done the post removal/ban is bullshit. Own your action. Rarely i'd say there's been consensus. Too much happens on this site to be discussing every action.
According to kristina, 10% of the site are mods (hyperbole maybe but who knows). So who's to say users having legitimate dissenting opinions aren't being silenced by particular mods because they don't like the blowback. Certainly no transparency around mod actions as mentioned.
With how many inactive and alt accounts, I don't think we really can get an accurate percentage
But lol some mods absolutely chose who they ban or what comments get removed based purely off who they like, that's been a constant since there have been mods on any forum but giving mods anonymity makes it worse
This is good to hear! Honestly at this point I just really want transparency, I know it's hard work working thru drama after the fact, not to mention all the other bs you gotta do.
Well transparency and some statement either saying "nah we fully support the mods, they're cool and if you dislike it you can go" or "some of the mods sucked a bit of shit and now they're gone." But figuring out which to say is going to take time. Just glad to hear you're not just memoryholing it.
I know it's a messy situation, hopefully the issue with transphobia and toxicity coming from some of the mods is dealt with and we can bounce back stronger.
"To cool everyone’s jets, you will be getting your slop back,"
The slop was only the catalyst. The issue quickly became that mod statement misgendering much of the site(and having an un-CWed self harm reference), harassment against people who were against it, and the fact that other lemmy mods got told before we did. Is there any plan to address those issues?
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Or just ban people for opposing it I guess
Yeah are there going to be any consequences for whoever cooked up 20 alt accounts to harrass everyone that disagreed with them, and tell users that they should kys/their parents should never had them/should have been killed? On top of purposeful misgendering and claiming that a user who exclusively used they/them pronouns was actually a cisgender man. I really did not care about this issue much, until that started.
I'd really like some general consequences for a good part of the mod team as a whole. This wasn't just an issue with one person, they were just the most egregious member, but they've been allowed to hang around for far too long. On top of that there were a lot of bullshit coming from those mods - "white cishet" being the top of a big turdpile.
And despite that whole statement being a terrible thing to say, it wasn't even true, you can go view the locked dredge tank community right now, I think only 4/20 posts on the front page were made by someone using he/him as their primary pronouns, 3/20 using she/her, and 3/20 using comrade/them. Certainly does not seem like a white cishet dominated community to me.
Yeah it's almost as if we have some shitty mods that are powertripping like they're on reddit, who use leftist rhetoric to shield their abysmal behaviour
rip
Amazing that they get banned while the user that straight up misgendered them and told everyone to go die on their dozen alt accounts has likely faced zero consequences, just great.
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Pretty sure the alts have already been banned, what people are wondering is if the user who created them is going to be dealt with or not. The user is supposedly a mod.
Edit: Never mind, didn't see your reply further down.
Sorta proves their point tbh lol
I mean they were obviously upset about what was said, but they were at 200+ comments in a 24 hour period, they needed a break.
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Most of that was them responding to another user viciously harassing them.
Is there a comment limit per day or should people just be banned arbitrarily even though they're a good poster?
Look, I'm not saying they were wrong, but it was basically spam at some points.
Banned for speaking too much truth
The poweruser/powermod thing is pretty much an unreconcilable contradiction of this site given how small the active user base is. I just came off like a two year break and I instantly recognised most of the names still posting lol.
Edit: I mean we’re literally commenting on a post made by someone who left for three years and just came back and was returned as an admin based on name recognition. No shade on TC personally but it’s pretty indicative of how things operate.
Hexbear celebrity culture is fucking weird.
and who should care if it was majority hehims?
"this activity has male vibes" is an absolutely insane way to criticise something. woke gender essentialism
Yeah that's what I meant when I said it was a terrible thing to say in the first place.
Fire them all and put me in charge. My platform:
You get half, I get the other half. This will be the dunk-debatebro split, except on tuesdays when we swap
What about holidays and weekends?
Time for the hexbear libs to bomb the headquarters
I assume there's not an easy way to track the original user but I'd again put down good money it was HelltakerHomosexual, just going through their modlog and comparing it to the bile the alt accounts were spewing the past couple days. Even discounting recent events I rarely see them coming in to threads to do anything but insult other users.
Who was this user? If they aren't banned, can you at least publish their name so I can block them?
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Also not having ownership of who has actually done the post removal/ban is bullshit. Own your action. Rarely i'd say there's been consensus. Too much happens on this site to be discussing every action.
Yeah if reports aren't anonymous then neither should mod actions so we know if it's being abused
According to kristina, 10% of the site are mods (hyperbole maybe but who knows). So who's to say users having legitimate dissenting opinions aren't being silenced by particular mods because they don't like the blowback. Certainly no transparency around mod actions as mentioned.
With how many inactive and alt accounts, I don't think we really can get an accurate percentage
But lol some mods absolutely chose who they ban or what comments get removed based purely off who they like, that's been a constant since there have been mods on any forum but giving mods anonymity makes it worse
Yeah even outside the baffling mod comment, some of the posters in that thread deserve a high velocity
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This is good to hear! Honestly at this point I just really want transparency, I know it's hard work working thru drama after the fact, not to mention all the other bs you gotta do.
Well transparency and some statement either saying "nah we fully support the mods, they're cool and if you dislike it you can go" or "some of the mods sucked a bit of shit and now they're gone." But figuring out which to say is going to take time. Just glad to hear you're not just memoryholing it.
I know it's a messy situation, hopefully the issue with transphobia and toxicity coming from some of the mods is dealt with and we can bounce back stronger.
We love our trans comrades
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Wait wtf how did I not hear abt all that shit in the statement