• crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          reefer madness moral panic brown people crazy bad so violent!

          but mr government, i take the medicinal marijuanas with my heroin supplements...

          i said brown people scary!

          :shocked-pikachu:

            • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              middle school photo of violent criminal suspect show he once made finger guns while wearing a bob marley shirt.

              obviously they couldnt risk him murdering all those nice policemanofficers with his hands in his pockets as he walked down the sidewalk like that

        • cosecantphi [he/him, they/them]
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          4 years ago

          Remember that time the government outlawed Opium, but only when you smoke it because that's the way many Chinese immigrants used it? Or that time freebase Cocaine was given harsher sentencing than regular Cocaine so the courts could be more lenient on the white boat dealership fucks? Whenever people say America doesn't have political prisoners I think of this shit

  • SlavojVivec [any]
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    4 years ago

    Pretty sure the first one was from a video game, probably Bioshock.

  • cosecantphi [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    OTC Heroin is good actually. Instead of having to rely on stepped on shit that varies wildly in potency and actual drug contents, people should be able to just get the good shit. The vast majority of medical complications from habitual Heroin use would no longer be a thing with regulated pharmaceutical grade Heroin. You'd even see less outright overdoses because people wouldn't need to guess as to what dose they need. And there would be absolutely no more demand for fentanyl.

    However, I agree it should absolutely not be left to the market, no one should have a profit incentive when it comes to Heroin. Clean Heroin and quality paraphernalia should be provided freely to those who can demonstrate opioid addiction as part of some sort of larger government program. This would eliminate the desperation that causes many users to resort to theft.

    Defund the police, defund the DEA, and instead put all that money in high quality public rehabs for those who've decided they've had enough. It's much easier to quit when you can do it at your own pace.

    • MagisterSinister [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Clean Heroin and quality paraphernalia should be provided freely to those who can demonstrate opioid addiction as part of some sort of larger government program

      There's pilot projects doing exactly this in various countries, including Switzerland and Germany. Patients can just go in there twice a day, they get a clean rig filled with pharmaceutical grade h and shoot up right there. This approach demonstrably works better than methadone clinics in all relevant metrics (number of ODs, likelyness of achieving full abstinence at some point, criminal activity, development of social and economic situation of the addict etc.). Still, governments refuse to expand the program because "it would send the wrong message to people".

      • cosecantphi [he/him, they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah, Methadone clinics are fucking horrible in the United States. The rules you need to follow are basically designed to set you up to fail because they make the process of getting Methadone in many cases more ridiculous than just staying on street Heroin. Gotta show up to the clinic every single day just to dose. Usually it's not gonna be near where you live because suburban yuppies don't want to be reminded of the real world. Got a job you need to go to? Fuck you. Also don't get fired, because this shit can be expensive. Weed helps with your anxiety? Also fuck you, that's a drug.

        I mean holy shit, just give them the methadone, who cares if they sell it. Better that than having them risk it everyday with street Fentanyl laced Heroin.

        Buprenorphine has much looser restrictions, and it works wonders. I go to a free clinic every other month to get a prescription for 8 weeks of medication, and they allow much more leniency when it comes to failed drug tests as long as you test positive for Buprenorphine. My doctor is chill, and even gave me the naloxone free generic version because it's only a third the cost. Just use this model for medical Heroin and Methadone. It literally can not be worse than what we are doing right now.

        EDIT: Wanted to expand on Suboxone, the Buprenorphine/Naloxone mixed medication. This shit is much more expensive than regular Buprenorphine, and the justification for it having Naloxone in it is it discourages abuse by injection. The pharma companies that produce it claim the Naloxone will induce precipitated withdrawals when used in routes of administration not intended, i.e ways of taking it other than under the tongue. However, this is not true. Buprenorphine has a higher binding affinity to mu-opioid receptors than naloxone. It will always outcompete naloxone at the receptors no matter how you take it. Myself as well as many others can confirm this first hand. It's literally just there for patent purposes and doctors continue to fall for it.

      • Cysioland [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        In Poland they use substitution therapy with methadone. But you cannot get it at a pharmacy, you can only get it at a special hospital (of which there's just not enough) and only for that day (so ya have to ride there everyday).

    • skeletorsass [she/her]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      I stole this from a boomer post I found that was captioned "still trust 'science'" or something like that.

      • cosecantphi [he/him, they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Not directed at you specifically, I just like putting this out there from time to time because for some reason, even among leftists, there is a pervasive belief that prohibition is cool and good for drugs they personally think are icky

  • 420bootywizard [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I've had a chud argue with me that we should go back to using asbestos, because it's a good insulator.

    Never mind that mesothelioma almost exclusively kills working class people with an insanely high mortality rate.

      • skeletorsass [she/her]
        hexagon
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        4 years ago

        I stole this from a boomer post I found that was captioned "still trust 'science'" or something like that.

      • cosecantphi [he/him, they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah, it's just too bad the solution is basically communism. In the meantime, we can treat the symptoms by getting rid of prohibition because nothing pushes people on to Heroin and Fentanyl like restricting the supply of prescription opioids that they are dependent on. A lot less death and suffering this way

  • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    I often think about all the different dynasties started with people who could sell shit that was addictive. I could make a million dollar business too if I were allowed to sneak heroin in my products and then turn the price up to 11 a year later. Think of all the generational wealth from cheating patents (Microsoft), human experiments (Bayer), and all the fucking terrible unethical shit cigarette companies, oil/gas companies, etc. do and get fucking LOADED with cash. Then they start getting subsidies out the ass and the full might of the US military behind them (another subsidy, only it kills a bunch of people). There's probably another sector of wealth that comes from killing indigenous people or hide a bunch of rape and murder to curry favor from someone who had backdoor access to tax dollars.

  • Owl [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    None of these things would occur under pure capitalism. This is all the result of government intervention, in a way I'll imply I understand, without actually being able to provide a concrete explanation.

    • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      None of it makes sense until you account for the increased efficiency factor of the free market. No, I will not explain how it works. Yes, I will assume it exists and is significant in every judgment I make.

      • QuillQuote [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        he also got polio later in life and then invented a pully system to help himself maintain some independence after being paralyzed, and his invention strangled him to death

  • YoungGramsci [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Forever fuck James Hardie for encouraging everyone to cram asbestos into every space they could find in Australia

  • diode [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    It's not like this has actually stopped. Only in upcoming decades will we know what the asbestos or cigarettes of today are. New chemicals and materials are introduced with no regard about the long term effects on environment or human beings.

    • LibsEatPoop [any]
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      4 years ago

      god damn that's scary. hope it's not coffee. or laptop/smartphone screens.

    • Mrtryfe [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Mosquitoes? That ain't shit compared to bed bugs. But apparently those little sumbitches now have an evolutionary tolerance to DDT. What a nightmare insect.