Just look at animemes banning the use of tr*p. Of course not every anime is misogynist but... there’s kinda a lot. And I think there’s a lot of blatant misogyny that is definitely noticed, and people who watch those scenes know it’s bad, but if you keep watching that shit over and over, even if you know it’s bad, it just get burned into your brain. But more importantly, a lot of anime just treats women as a whole differently than the male characters. Their drawn slightly differently, they act slightly differently, and they continue to be treated as objects, albeit in more subtle ways. On their own or in a bubble these grievances wouldn’t be a big deal, but it does add up. Idk, shit just sucks and it makes it hard to get into shows I would really like otherwise...

  • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Um... people... you realise that the director meant that as meta-commentary, right? The first person framing of that sequence being the big tell, right? That it's a direct condemnation of all the waifu bodypillow neckbeards who weren't satisfied with the original TV ending of Evangelion cause they wanted to jack off to Asuka and not be told they needed to self-actualise, right?

    Like we can have a discussion about how the commercialization of art undercuts the messages it tells us, but can we at least be clear on the directorial intention...

    • kirbyhiller2 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yup, Eva is probably one of the most clear examples of this commodification undercutting messages with the figurines of the female characters being super sexualized while the show tries to steer young men away from oversexualizing women.

      • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It's ok, Anno will let us know how he REALLY feels in Rebuild 3.0 + 1.0, You Can (Not) Fap.

          • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Eeeeeeeehhhh... at this point they feel like his personal anti-Otaku vehicle, where he's just screaming "WHY DON'T YOU GET IT!!!" at the top of his lungs as he bashes you over the head with End of Evangelion.

            Like... I've never seen any author so visibly frustrated at cockblocking himself, so they're worth the watch for that at least, I guess.

    • ziper1221 [none/use name,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah, I do realize that, I just thought it was funny that his objection was to a scene besides that one. Also, look at how many fans miss that (definitely intended) meta commentary. Turns out there is no such thing as an anti-anime film.

      • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Dang, done it by my inability to discern sarcasm in text form.

        If Anno did the principled Bill Waterson thing and somehow blocked all merchandising (which I'm not sure even he could pull off as I don't know how much he had a say in production and financing) maybe it could've worked, but the Evangelion toothbrushes certainly don't help.

        • Florn [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          Socialism is when you take away everyone's Evangelion toothbrush