He was dying like a week ago and now he’s just...fine?

  • 90u9y8gb9t86vytv97g [they/them]
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    Yes, they gave him antibodies from someone who already survived the virus. (Not baby stem cells like some podcasts like to repeat, wrongly.)

    He's going to be fine.

    They gave them to Christie too, who was in the ICU but now is also fine.

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      It was a monoclonal antibody. It’s basically taking the antibody cocktail from someone who survived it, finding the best one among those and growing that up in another “factory” cell line, the most popular coming from aborted fetal cells (HEK293). There’s also a “humanized” mouse antibody in that drug too.

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        The company that made the antibody cocktail does not use embryonic stem cells.

        How is it that you can quote that much but haven't checked that detail?

        They took stem cells from an adult Covid survivor and mouse stem cells.

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          ... I know that. Read what I said.

          They’re not bleeding that person dry, they extract the antibody gene from their B cells and put them INTO another, separate cell line. Oftentimes, that would be a cell line like HEK293, which was immortalized in the 1970s from aborted fetal kidney cells. At no point did I mention ES cells, which are totally different. I know this because I work for an antibody production firm.

          The antibody is not derived from aborted fetal cells, but they play a role in the pharmacological development and expansion. Either way it doesn’t matter, I agree I find this whole “oh trumps a hypocrite for using aborted baby drugs” when the vast majority of drugs in the last 30 years are developed or tested with the help of things like HEK cells.

    • Not_irony [he/him]
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      sucks that basically rich people won't die from this anymore.

      edit. not that they really did before, either

    • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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      Not baby stem cells like some podcasts like to repeat

      Why would my parasocial friend Roz lie to me :(

      • chapofarty [he/him, he/him]
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        Isn’t it spelled Rocz or something? I think I heard them ranting about it on a recent pod

        • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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          They pronounce it either Roz or Ross depending on whether it’s Liam or Alice saying it. His last name is Roczniak so yeah I quest that’s how it’s spelled but how the fuck do you pronounce Rocz? Or any fucking Polish last names for that matter? Who the fuck thinks Bzryneczneckvichiakzick is a reasonable last fucking name!

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            in Polish "cz" is pronounced like "ch" as in cherry, but anglicized Polish names usually ignore the "c" and pronounce "cz" as "z"

          • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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            I think the standard would actually sound like "Rotch" but he pronounces it "Roz" so I just go with that.

    • 90u9y8gb9t86vytv97g [they/them]
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      Downvoted to -4 for this?

      How hard are yall coping damn, of course he's going to be given everything to keep him alive.