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  • Darkmatter2k [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I'll repost my comment from the last dicsussion on this:

    Some reasons why Bernie failed:

    1. Bernie ran a much worse campaign in 2020 than in 2016, he sounded like any other democrat (orange man bad, putin is terrible etc etc).
    2. Bernie filled his campaign with highpaid DNC consultants who fucked up out-reach on multiple fronts (don't have the sourcing ready on this but Fiorella Isabel did a lot of good work talking to people in Bernies campaign who were very frustrated with the campaigns direction).
    3. Amongst democrats 70% of the electoral still believes the media is an imperfect but fundamentally impartial arbiter, instead of the corrupt corporate tools of US capital tied to the hip of the DNC they really are.
    4. Bernie tried playing nice with the media hoping they would give him a chance see nr 3 for why that would never happen.
    5. Bernie offered a critique of capitalism by focusing on the current living conditions for the vast majority of americans, but that is not enough, if you want to win, you have to convince them that you are willing to fight. Bernie never went against the establishment and thus never gained true outsider status like Trump got in 2016.
    6. Bernie never critiqued the democratic party for betraying workers or Obama's term for how much of a disaster it was.
    7. Bernie russia gated, while not as much as other democrats, it made him sound like all the other democrats, and it still came back to bite him, both when he was forced to partake in the senate hearings (discussions with people inside the campaign said this cost him dearly in Iowa) and in the end when it was used against him right before Nevada.
    8. For most of the democratic primary electorate this election was "about beating trump", Bernie kept saying "joe biden is my good friend, he's a decent guy and he can beat trump", making his candidacy too risky for suburban liberals who mainstream media kept telling that Bernie was a commie radical and could never win an election.
    9. Bernie was terrible at picking allies, he burned bridges with other progressives and it left his campaign a lot weaker.
    10. Snakes on a campaign (warren was clearly a spoiler candidate meant to divide the progressive wing of the party)

    Finally, maybe don't concede the primary to a demented racist rapist corporate sellout warmonger when you entire agenda is being proven right by a pandemic and subsequent economic depression. Especially when millions of working people have given you money and are putting their hopes in you helping their lives.

    Maybe he could at least fight to get some concessions from Biden like he did in 2016, but instead we got the obvious bullshit that was "the task forces", we don't need another group of people to brainstorm "how we fix the problems", the fixes are obvious at this point.

    • LatheOfLeavenedBread [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Task forces are always meant to sap enthusiasm and energy from people. Almost nothing meaningfully left will come out of these task forces, and even less will be implemented as law.

    • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Finally, maybe don’t concede the primary to a demented racist rapist corporate sellout warmonger good friend

    • Reversi [none/use name]
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      Bernie was terrible at picking allies, he burned bridges with other progressives and it left his campaign a lot weaker.

      Examples?

      • D61 [any]
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        Wasn't Zephyr Teachout one? She was an up and comming progressive that said something (can't remember what) "impolite" about Biden (i think) and Bernie distanced himself from her and applogized for what she said.

        I think this opinion piece is it... Zephyr Teachout's opinion piece in the Guardian, "'Middle Class' Joe Biden has a Corruption Problem..."

        Washington Post opinion piece about the opinion piece and Bernie's response, by Paul Waldman... from the first paragraph...

        "Bernie Sanders did a strange thing the other day: He apologized to Joe Biden for an op-ed written not by him or his campaign but by a supporter, law professor and anti-corruption crusader Zephyr Teachout."

        There was also some people who made pretty good videos independently supporting Sanders, who were brought into his campaign and then dumped when the "cancel culture kids" found something they didn't like about the content creators.