I imagine in terms of medical care access and affordability or welfare stimulus, practically negligible, but in terms of CDC funding, science literacy, public policy, and general preparedness, it would be a whole lot better put together.

So I'd say... 10% fewer deaths? 200K vs. 220K deaths sounds about right.

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    Looking at the other countries that have mask wearing as an accepted and common practice.

    Half is way too low for how well just wearing a mask protects you.

    Combine that with social distancing measures that weren't actively derided by the president and yeah, we'd be a fuck of a lot better off.

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        Surpress the urge to call everything you disagree with "liberal" for a second.

        Look at the worst infected countries. US, Brazil, India. It's conservative leadership that causes this sort of massive pandemic fuck up.

        There's no way Hillary would have done a UBI or something that actually benefited the struggling people like Bernie called for, but her or Obama would have let a Fauci lead the messaging and then would have fully supported it.

        Embracing the USPS plan to mail a cloth mask to every person in the US, you think that wouldn't have had a massive impact? Trump scrapped that.

        https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/postal-services-plan-send-650m-face-masks-americans/story?id=73081928

        A socialist government would handle it far better than the Obama admin ever could, but the difference between Obama or Trump in charge during this truly would have been incredible.

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          It’s conservative leadership that causes this sort of massive pandemic fuck up.

          India had some pretty strict lockdowns when everything started. My parents needed to get a permit to drive to a nearby city to get our grandparents.

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        capitalism itself that was weak against the virus, doesn’t matter who was in charge.

        There are lots of capitalist countries that are in better situations than the US though

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        Under Trump they marched into a statehouse armed and have a whole cottage industry of covid conspiracy theories. It's hard to imagine them being more opposed to any sort of covid precautions.