• ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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    I'm sorry but the fact that people are so outraged with Biden for doing this is exactly why Kamala lost.

    Trump and the Democrats are held to completely different standards. Trump is willing to fight dirty to win at all costs, and that's why he won. It sucks to hear but it's true.

    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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      29 分钟前

      Democrats are also willing to fight dirty to win at all cost. They just did

      You are confused what winning means for them. It is not forgiving student loan or raising minimum wage.

  • EvilZ@thelemmy.club
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    1 天前

    Let's face it for elites.... They are not American, they are Elites that use America as their playground ... The Biden tanked the Harris campaign out of spite and don't care who gets in as it doesn't really affect them.

    These are extremely rich people..... Unless we are in Red China, they have nothing to fear

    • jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 天前

      No offense, but Harris more than capably tanked her own campaign by being as milquetoast as biden when it comes to supporting the working class.

      • EvilZ@thelemmy.club
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        1 天前

        None taken, however my comment and yours can both be true which is my concern....

        From various reports it would seem that President Biden is quite a nasty little thing that, with his wife, have a very overinflated view of themselves.... (what président doesn't I guess) however he has been vindictive for being ousted for the president debste(which was a no brainer...) and honestly I truly believe that he did on purpose to tank Harris.

        She has herself to blame for sure however, even Bill Clinton through his speach about the middle eastern conflict stired up the wrong tone....

        The democratic party is in need to a cleanup... Then again I would say the same of the republican as well as they are under the leadership of a loon... (thinking of Black Adder with King George III)

        • jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          19 小时前

          Yeah but had harris done the correct thing and disowned biden's policies (critically around israel and corporate water carrying) and been a decent human being and supported working americans. biden wouldn't have been able to impact shit.

    • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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      1 天前

      I look forward to watching y’all eat crow as Israel wipes out Palestine

      Wow, the liberals are straight up admitting their monstrous racism now?

      the US leaves NATO

      This would be good for the Global South, which is why Trump won't do it

      and western democracy collapses.

      The West hasn't had a workable implementation of Democracy to begin with, though if you finally recognize that are you going to sit out or do something about it?

      • Krauerking@lemy.lol
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        1 天前

        It's not an issue that actually affects them so they only pretend to care when it's easy, then swap back the moment there is no backlash or they get what they want enough to not have to pretend again. That's like the whole shtick of a liberal.

        But we got to love them cause they are the superior liberal.

        • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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          1 天前

          Yep. Rainbow Imperialism and all that. Weaponizing treating marginalized groups slightly less bad and just watching with glee when the slightly worse group does what it does. Liberals don't actually care about marginalized people, which is why they shift from advocacy to sadism so easily.

    • the_post_of_tom_joad [any, any]
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      2 天前

      Yo, Fascism already won my dudes. Biden is just seeing the writing on the wall and adapting to the change.

      So i infer from your attitude you too will be adapting to this change? My dude?

      This had better be bait. Fuckin libs mannnnn quit breathing my air

      • Krauerking@lemy.lol
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        1 天前

        Nah. Liberals gonna do whatever is easy for them and that's gonna mean being a fascist and then chastising everyone else for making them be like this while they whip harder to see if it makes them feel more alive inside.

        • the_post_of_tom_joad [any, any]
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          24 小时前

          I'm really starting to get how germans musta felt and how society just...slipped down. Like I'm looking right at it and my lil eyes are open as they've ever been but I'm still really having a hard time internalizing that dude is fr. Fuck me

          • Krauerking@lemy.lol
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            4 小时前

            Yeah, so many of them just complainung currently that they now have to treat everyone worse because "they just have to now that everyone proved they deserve to be treated worse" as if they weren't just looking for an excuse to not care anymore.

            Yeah it's just easier to decide that this is how the world is and join in on making it worse from a liberals perspective and do it all just to make their life a little less responsible.

            So many of them happy to join in punching down cause they finally get to do it toi and it's easier than continuing to care and treat people well. All they wanted was an excuse.

    • നാടൻ@lemmy.ml
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      2 天前

      Not a USAmerican, so not exactly talking about the politics, but some issues.

      The irony of blasting Biden for going against his word in his son's best interest while Trump is about to become president is the most laughable hypocrisy I've ever seen

      Why not?
      It's not like Trump is supported by the leftists in lemmy.

      It just shows them that Biden is not very different from Trump. They have been saying that and pushing for 3rd parties or other President nominees.
      Biden chooses to do this rather than set guardrails or do something to ensure that Trump is not given free reign.

      This is further validation for their view.

      And since Trump becoming president is a grave thing, does it mean that the Democrats are bad, because they have not done enough to stop it?

      I look forward to watching y'all eat crow as Israel wipes out Palestine, the US leaves NATO, and western democracy collapses.

      Palestine is being wiped out even under Biden.
      US leaving Nato would be big, but we can never know how the effects would be like, right?

      • menemen@lemmy.ml
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        1 天前

        Yeah it is weird how self righteous liberals react towards being shown over and over that their group is to blame for this shitshow.

        But I doubt the US will ever leave NATO without a coup happening in the US. The US would basically lose more than half their geopolitical influence.

    • SovietyWoomy [any]
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      2 天前

      I look forward to watching y'all eat crow as Israel wipes out Palestine

      Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds

  • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    2 天前

    Here is the only issue I have with the pardon. Once Kamala lost, Biden should have started to go hog wild with last minute shenanigans in order to give Americans things they actually need. Instead he decided to pardon Hunter a full month before leaving office rather than helping us out and doing the pardon on the last day. Now, even if he does do things that will help Americans, nobody will notice because of the pardon.

    • orcrist@lemm.ee
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      1 天前

      I think Biden should have gone hog wild with shenanigans that Americans actually need 4 years ago, but you're right that now would still be a good time.

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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      2 天前

      Why would the man that wrote the crime bill and helped throw millions of Americans in jail do anything to help Americans? 🤔

    • Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee
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      2 天前

      They'd notice if he had Trump and all his goons disappeared to a black site... You know, as an official act... Against terrorism and traitors even

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    2 天前

    *removed externally hosted image*

    DNC: We're the friendly fascists. We choose the corporation over the people in all aspects. We still worship the oligarchy the MAGA fascists will incorporate, we just choose the honey of caring about social issues as opposed to the vinegar of hating the others.

  • SovietyWoomy [any]
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    2 天前

    You have to vote for democrats even if they're openly genocidal because at least they're not corrupt the-democrat

  • Kieselguhr [none/use name]
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    2 天前

    I’ve been trying to say this I don’t ever want to hear republicans complain about people again Unwritten rules are out the window maybe-later-honey

    The double standards on this are driving me mad, good on him tbh maybe-later-kiddo

    I'm gonna grab a lot of popcorn 🍿 when Trump supporters suffer under the upcoming tariffs smuglord

    umm, how about just having standards?
    Why wouldn't he pardon others with the same charges?

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    2 天前

    Tbh, anyone getting actually mad at Biden over Hunter getting pardoned is kind of funny. Like, there's way way better reasons to have grown to dislike Joe. Oh no, the president pardoned his son for form filing crimes.

    Who cares?

    He's Mr. Genocide. This is actually one of the few actually human things he's done.

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
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      2 天前

      Everyone that criticizes Biden or democrats must surely be a paid troll or not understand the world like me the adult in the room

      Do you people not realize we hear this tritte smug bullshit day in an day out and it doesn't make you sound smart.

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          1 天前

          You don't understand that we don't actually give a fuck about the pardon of Hunter, it is a demonstration of all the shit he could do to help people in his last days in office, just going ham with pardons and executive orders and he did literally nothing, not even student debt relief. Do not talk to me like a child when you yourself come in here not even knowing wtf YOU are talking about.

          This condescending bullshit from someone that doesn't even understand what is so infuriating about this move in the absence of helping actually deserving people is what everyone is shitting on him for. I am not even outraged because I am not surprised. What does outrage me are liberals like you that don't even understand what everyone is dunking on.

            • Nakoichi [they/them]
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              You live in a fantasy land he could literally cancel it all right now unilaterally which can't just be undone by the next president, he could go full fucking stalin and imprison the people YOU are calling a dictator and fascists but you don't give a fuck because none of this affects you personally and if the left did come for any of your treats and ill gotten gains you earn on the blood of the global south you'd become a fascist in a heartbeat your self. You don't even know how the US government works and you keep talking down to me. Fuck off dude quit simping for a guy that hates you and is prosecuting a genocide. Your belligerent ignorance is not welcome here drag your garbage ass opinions back to reddit they love dolts like you.

  • w3dd1e@lemm.ee
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    2 天前

    I’m not saying it was right, but Hunter did get it rough solely because of who his dad was.

    I’m not saying he didn’t deserve it, only that it wouldn’t have happened otherwise.

    I don’t know that this is worth making a fuss over.

    • Barabas [he/him]
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      Wasn't solely because of who his dad was. If his dad was just a regular rich dude with political connections, maybe. If he was one of the thousands of black men currently incarcerated under the law that Biden championed himself, hell no.

      Really, he should have just taught his son to do powdered cocaine instead, since that is a rich person drug and thus has a much lower penalty.

      • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        2 天前

        Didn't they look through records to figure out he may have been an addict around the time he bought a gun and that's what he got charged for?

        A law restricting access to gun purchases based on legislation not in the constitution. Thereby .. exactly what judges have been trying to rule unconstitutional. So if the law is legitimate... Then states have full right to restrict gun purchases by any of their wants.

        It's all hypocritical shit.

    • AmericaDelendaEst [comrade/them]
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      2 天前

      If hunters dad wasn't the fucking president and he weren't rich he'd probably have life in prison just for all the crack he smoked

    • MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com
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      2 天前

      My big issue with it is basically summed up by this meme. By doing this he's established that he's willing to break promises and take advantage of systems that republicans are abusing, but only when it benefits him personally. He could executive order a bunch of different things, and go on a pardon spree, but what he does with his power is just to pardon his son. Unlike the rest of us, a Trump presidency will basically not affect him at all, and the little it would/did has to do with his son and he doesn't even have to deal with that.

      Do I want his son in prison? No, not really. But considering he all but lied about being a 1 term president and refused to step down making a primary impossible, which at least contributed to the dems loss, it's an extra slap in the face that the only real consequence he had to face is able to be erased by a stroke of his pen, and yet he seems to be doing nothing to protect or help anyone else who has been hurt by his decisions. I don't think Hunter should suffer because of who his dad is, but his dad is making (and has made) us all suffer and is unwilling to do anything about it.

      I'm not making a fuss about it, but if I was, it'd not be about the pardon, it'd be about how his big move as a lame duck with immunity confirmed by the Supreme Court is to get his son out of prison and watch everyone else suffer.

    • TheOubliette@lemmy.ml
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      2 天前

      Whomst among us hasn't been given cushy jobs we aren't qualified for in corrupt Ukrainian companies by our dad and then done a bunch of blow with prostitutes and tax fraud and illegally owned guns!? Clearly this is a witch hunt.

  • cdf12345@lemm.ee
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    2 天前

    Yeah. This is the pardon that is going to break the country, not the fact that individual’s who received a pardon from Trump’s first term and now being nominated to his cabinet.

    • the_post_of_tom_joad [any, any]
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      2 天前

      What part of this post is about mothafuckin Trump homie?

      Stop enabling lawlessness cuz it's from your colored team.

    • TheDoctor [they/them]
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      2 天前

      Neither of those things are going to break the country. It’s a matter of priorities. Dems sell themselves as the adults in the room who are going to fight against fascism. And this is what Biden is doing instead.

      • cdf12345@lemm.ee
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        2 天前

        There was a great episode of the daily show with Jon recently after the election. Basically his point was the democrats keep doing things because of “norms” or “tradition” while the republicans have completely thrown both out the window to win. It’s time for the democrats to start doing the same. Taking the political high ground for “norms” and “traditions” is causing their constituents to suffer. It’s clear that the norms politicians have followed for the past 250 years are not rule, law or enforceable. The dems need to realize what they are fighting against and step up to the battlefield in which they find themselves, then after regaining power they need to code these previous norms into law with actual consequences for ignoring them.

        Here is the clip: (it’s about 1//2 through, but the whole thing is worth watching)

        https://youtu.be/HNcmo-K5Xsg

        • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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          2 天前

          Democrats won't abandon norms and traditions, because they play a good cop to Republicans' bad cop. They are all in one big club and you aren't in it.

        • the_post_of_tom_joad [any, any]
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          It’s time for the democrats to start doing the same. Taking the political high ground for “norms” and “traditions” is causing their constituents to suffer.

          My brother in christ that is what this meme is saying. When constituents are crying out for help, the Dems tell us "Biden must not stoop to fascism". I remember liberal lemmyposters using that very argument quite recently. Biden finally decides to abuse his executive power after years of telling us "The D's are better than that" and it's for personal gain. THAT'S THE JOKE

          Fuck me running... here you be defending that choice. Why?

          Why?? It's abundantly clear he will never use it for you or me.

        • AmericaDelendaEst [comrade/them]
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          2 天前

          great episode of the daily show with Jon

          This tells me everything i assumed about your politics from your first comment is actually 100% fact