It's actually not on the novara site anymore. I went looking earlier to edit in a link. Bastanis tweet linking it still exists but it's a dead link. Fucking weird.
In all seriousness, posting about it. It's tough, because the currency of twitter is dunks and we should be careful about getting ourselves ramped up to dunk on fellow leftists, but posting some form of public critique will often get a response. We all have to help each other not get duped by propaganda. Ideally we could do that in an informative way, not a hostile way.
Yeah, dunks are often ways to not get people to listen to you. I sound like a lib, but I really didn't pay attention to ML stuff until I read some of the stuff on the old sub that was more thought out. Basically Twitter did not help at all. I saw Qiao Collective post this but I just can't help but feel like that just won't get anywhere in the discourse even if they are right. If anything, we need to stop assuming they are misreporting on purpose and take in the fact they genuinely don't know they are reposting CIA talking points.
tbh ive grown more sympathetic to china due to all the bullshit propaganda going on rn. used to think that they had already given up on the socialist cause due to deng but i dont think its so clear cut anymore
If anything, we need to stop assuming they are misreporting on purpose and take in the fact they genuinely don’t know they are reposting CIA talking points.
So how do we make sure our left media doesn't fall for obvious BS anymore?
Bastani wrote a very long apology for buying into it. Not that it helps but he admitted he should have seen through it.
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It's actually not on the novara site anymore. I went looking earlier to edit in a link. Bastanis tweet linking it still exists but it's a dead link. Fucking weird.
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In all seriousness, posting about it. It's tough, because the currency of twitter is dunks and we should be careful about getting ourselves ramped up to dunk on fellow leftists, but posting some form of public critique will often get a response. We all have to help each other not get duped by propaganda. Ideally we could do that in an informative way, not a hostile way.
Yeah, dunks are often ways to not get people to listen to you. I sound like a lib, but I really didn't pay attention to ML stuff until I read some of the stuff on the old sub that was more thought out. Basically Twitter did not help at all. I saw Qiao Collective post this but I just can't help but feel like that just won't get anywhere in the discourse even if they are right. If anything, we need to stop assuming they are misreporting on purpose and take in the fact they genuinely don't know they are reposting CIA talking points.
tbh ive grown more sympathetic to china due to all the bullshit propaganda going on rn. used to think that they had already given up on the socialist cause due to deng but i dont think its so clear cut anymore
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If someone is willing to seriously criticize capitalism, we should start off by engaging them in good faith.
Your post took the words out of my mouth.
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