The fact that anarchists don't talk about the Kowloon Walled City all the time proves how stupid internet Anarchists actually are (except for any anarchists reading this who are of course very smart and cool)

  • Blurst_Of_Times [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    It became an embarrassment to Britain

    There are no words to adequately capture my disgust and hatred at the casual sweeping aside of 50,000 human lives for the sake of a wretched empire's fragile ego. And then to turn around and act like you did them a favor? Into the fucking sea with you, Br*tain.

    • EvilCorgi [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      I mean I think they gave the residents pretty good deals on apartments elsewhere in HK but yeah it's a stupid fucking reason to bulldoze the entire thing. Just annihilating a community permanently so that Terf Island's fragile fee fees don't get hurt.

      • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Deep down every British nationalist knows they never deserved to have their empire in the first place. You can't wake to piss six times every night and never see your dick once and still think you should be entitled to the ill-gotten gains of your forefathers. You can't turn lobster pink in the Spanish sun every summer holiday and think that you'd be able to survive in Kenya or India. They still think all that, mind you, but they're dimly aware of the lie.

  • pisspissass [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    too late to get shady dental work done in the walled city

    too early to get shady dental work done in my local shanty town

    smdh

      • Shmyt [he/him,any]
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        4 years ago

        Just chant "Balkanize" three times into a mirror where you can see a reflection of a US map, an image on your phone works well enough. Once jesus hears enough chants it will definitely happen

  • MysticAnarchy [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    This is cool, but I’d assume it’s generally not discussed by anarchists much as it isn’t really an example of anarchist ideology. Lawlessness =/= Anarchism. The place being run by the Triad seems pretty hierarchical to me.

  • Enzo [he/him,use name]
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    4 years ago

    pardon my shitlib education but wasnt kowloon like wayyy overpopulated and crime ridden?

    • EvilCorgi [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah, had bad infrastructure too. And yet despite all of that, the residents apparently look back on it very fondly, from what I've read.

  • sonartaxlaw [undecided,he/him]
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    4 years ago

    First the kwc was mainly run by the mob, second, it's not like it didn't have l*ndlords, specifically ones who massively profited off of the unsafe conditions inside of it.

    • sonartaxlaw [undecided,he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Also because that "constantly dripping water" would have eventually resulted in one massive collapse killing virtually every inhabitant.

  • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    In March 1993, the settlement was demolished

    And replaced with modernized affordable housing?

    and a park that looked like a typical Chinese garden was built in its place.

    Oh. What happened to the fifty thousand people?

  • EvilCorgi [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    If you like maps and wanna see a community to post them please go here and annoy the admins about it thank u

    https://hexbear.net/post/40472/comment/343390

    • EvilCorgi [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      It was mostly run by the triads tbh, though if someone else knows more about it I am extremely interested

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Chinese equivalent of the Yakuza. Essentially mafia-like groups.

          Definitely not good. Lawlessness provides an opportunity to exploit the people, not just for what little money they have but also for their labour so you can peddle your drugs elsewhere. You could easily use Kowloon as an area for production and labour while making your sales outside Kowloon in rich HK.

      • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I did a small research project on this for college.

        English language sources kinda suck sadly, but while yes indeed the mafia had a massive presence in the area, from what I could gather there was something of an understanding between the criminal and non-criminal residence of the area. Apparently it would have been pretty easy to get a police presence in the area if enough residence requested it, which would have ended the gangs free reign, but it would also mean non-criminal residence would have to star paying taxes and landlords would likely raise rents. So there was something of an incentive for both parties to behave civilly because if the gangs harassed and abused residence they would decide the meddling of the government was worth getting them off their back and then the gangs would lose out on a massive safe haven. So, I guess in a weird way the AnCap concept of free markets being mutually beneficial kinda worked out there.

  • RandomWords [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    that bottom text, beautiful. hey there's a video game coming out called stray next year or something where you get to explore an artists interpretation of kowloon as a stray cat. for all you g*mers out there.

  • anarchokamalism [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I was fortunate to visit Hong Kong a few years ago, went to the park where the walled city used to be. I know Hong Kong is some turbo capitalist neocolonial hellscape but Nathan road and Kowloon in the humid summer night is literally Bladerunner aesthetics and it's cool as fuck.

    Cheap smokes and booze too.

    • keki_ya [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Isn’t bladerunner aesthetics a bad thing? Maybe I understood the movie wrong but the giant techno-corporate hell-scape felt extremely claustrophobic, and the way the population toiled away at the bottom of the city while the giant skyscrapers stood tall sort of made the society feel really economically stratified, like you’re looking at what the natural logical next step is for cities as they grow. Also the whole constant advertisement face thing.

      Idk, the city was obviously intricately designed and well-made but I feel like it wasn’t made to look cool. Maybe I’m braindead tho

  • Bob [he/him,he/him]
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    4 years ago

    did you kno theres footage of the inside

    edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq4jAwPdCMw

    double edit: also lmfao totally forgot about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UxAJ7eCURc&feature=emb_title