it's a nice apartment, but it's still an incredible shitty and hopeless life. He's gonna be in solitary until he rots and dies. Zero chance of ever forming any meaningful relationships or achieving anything ever, or even having a conversation with a person who isn't paid to be near you.
I have no doubt that when he says he's suffering in prison he means it, but I aslo could not have less sympathy.
I don't disagree at all. Being robbed of your freedom is more than enough punishment in almost all cases. Breivik is just the one for me that's tough
Breivik is the guy who really pushes me on my "prison shouldn't be punitive, it should be rehabilitative" stance
In its own way, it is punitive. It takes care of all of his needs and desires except one; genuine social interaction. Look at the lack of sympathy here and on the
post. His personal comfort denies him any social comfort.Semitic religions describe hell as the absence of God's light. I can imagine the very same from the absence of social.
If your actions are politically motivated, being punished or tortured makes you feel justified. It also makes you a martyr to the cause. A soft beige room and benign guards has got to be pretty aggravating to him. He thinks he should be the next Adolf Hitler and they're like "Oh Anders you're getting a bit worked up, maybe go play some playstation and cool off?"
It absolutely should be for rehabilitation and not punishment. This guy is clearly beyond any hope of rehabilitation. Just put him down quietly and dump him in a shallow grave, anything else is excessive.
Honestly I don't really care if it looks nice and cozy with appliances and a TV and furniture and workout equipment and even little birds. Breivik complains about his prison conditions because he knows it'll give him (and more crucially, his neo-Nazi ideas) attention, as news media around the world is all too eager to gawk at him and go "uhmm, entitled much?" — in fact, even aside from simply giving him a platform, I believe he knows how his prison conditions are covered by the news, and knows how any coverage of his conditions will play into his hand.
There is one point that can be made about how if prison conditions are worsened for Breivik, that they're really going to be worsened a lot more for a lot more people who deserve worse conditions a lot less — but I also feel like a just as important point, which I have raised another time, is how Norway's prisons are a part of the country's "national brand": having humane prisons is treated by many as basically evidence of Norwegians having a virtuous character "as a people", of Norway being a "good country" with "morally superior" citizens, As Opposed To the "ebil countries" and of course Norway's greatest love-hate envy in Seppoland. This presentation of Norwegians as innately moral is obviously at the core of anti-immigrant and imperialist rhetoric, but another problem is that this presentation of Norway's "morality" ends up distracting from all the fucked up shit that Norway actually does, including in the selfsame "criminal justice" system that is supposedly so humane.
At the end of the day, we need to remember that Norway is still a bourgeois state: prisons are still prisons, ex-cons are still ex-cons, deportations are still deportations. If you wouldn't want to be put under house arrest in someone else's house, then you wouldn't want to go to a prison cell that looks like an apartment. No matter how nice it looks on the surface, everything you do is still being closely monitored and restricted.
Sent from Mdewakanton Dakota lands / Sept. 29 1837
Treaty with the Sioux of September 29th, 1837
"We Will Talk of Nothing Else": Dakota Interpretations of the Treaty of 1837
I completely agree with your analysis. I found the pictures interesting and hoped they would stimulate a nice discussion, but I really don't agree with all the redditors crying that prisons should be what they imagine soviet gulags were.
Part of me is glad he gets treatment like this so that the only thing torturing him is the fact that he is in prison. There's no adversarial relationship to test his inner discipline in some Mein Kampf way that might give his spiritualside some satisfaction. There's no beatings so he can act like a martyr. He's just gonna be a lonely boy forever and ever until he dies.
I mean the time for him to be shot in the face was during his terror attack or if he tried shit while being arrested. Which I would have celebrated because he's a stain and deserves it. Alas, it didn't.
So I am capable of finding a cold satisfaction that this will be his fate.
Yeah, social democrats, it was the Workers' Youth League. Breivik still called them "Marxists" though IIRC
Sent from Mdewakanton Dakota lands / Sept. 29 1837
Treaty with the Sioux of September 29th, 1837
"We Will Talk of Nothing Else": Dakota Interpretations of the Treaty of 1837
Unfortunately Europe is full of people like him, willing to do the same again and again.
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