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  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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    anti-capitalism is easy, but how would you suggest one build a civilization without first examining and utilizing the tools we have?

    western liberal democracy created catastrophic horrifying nuclear weapons technology using state capitalism, does that mean USSR and communists should've planted flowers in missile silos?

    material circumstances require tempered material responses, not wishful thinking & ... what else are you suggesting again?

    i didn't say that Deng Xiaoping was right, I said that CPC is doing the thing right now to weather this year's material circumstances using anti-capitalist measures

    but again

    state capitalism and this discussion we're having right now is literally the primary stage of socialism

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      state capitalism and this discussion we’re having right now is literally the primary stage of socialism

      If you're a lying piece of shit who wants to betray a revolution it also works really well. I don't know which Deng Xiaoping was, most likely the former, but his shortcut means China is capitalist now.

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          Which stage is this?

          https://www.nst.com.my/world/world/2020/10/633787/chinas-super-rich-got-15-trillion-richer-during-pandemic

          • volkvulture [none/use name]
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            This is the Kuala Lumpur paper? Lol, I wonder if they have an ideological bias or have ever been involved in political bias scandals

            At any rate, here's what that article says about PRC "the country is on track to become the only major economy to expand this year, according to the International Monetary Fund.... The urban jobless rate inched down to 5.4 percent in September"

            I wonder what the US' jobless rate is atm.

            Basically all I am seeing is that the communists are better at developing past the conventions of capitalism, especially considering how no other capitalist economy is doing so hot...

            or maybe the Chinese billionaires were just creating racism in America, and that's where all that money went

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/economist-found-2416-trillion-when-she-tallied-cost-of-racial-bias/ar-BB1acPA7

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              Maybe black people they just need reeducation and forced relocation to where better jobs are.

              • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                are you saying that something like a PRC-style developmental outreach initiative would definitely work within areas of the US where poverty and systemic legally codified racism & capitalism have left centuries of scars? that's actually not that bad of an idea, though I disagree with your cynical & lib characterization. really reaching

                • FailsonSimulator2020 [any]
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                  It’s more like using the government to scoop up specifically Q Anon/ facsist brainwormed people and giving them education and bringing them out of impoverished rural towns to places with better wages and working more productively with the same effort because of developed labor skills. We would definitely hate that and call it “cultural genocide” 🙄

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                    white people have no culture lmao take all the white supramcists improve their lives and educate them sounds great

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                    Except in this case the "q-anon" people happen to compose an ethnic minority.

                  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                    where you compare PRC's actual outreach and socioeconomic development to USA who has literally waged racist and genocidal campaigns against both Black & Indigenous

                    not to mention the ACTUAL comparison to be made which is America's Global War on Terror... lol

                    you have nothing