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  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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    where you compare PRC's actual outreach and socioeconomic development to USA who has literally waged racist and genocidal campaigns against both Black & Indigenous

    not to mention the ACTUAL comparison to be made which is America's Global War on Terror... lol

    you have nothing

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      who has literally waged racist and genocidal campaigns against both Black & Indigenous

      Canada did too.

      Infamously via forced education.

      you have nothing

      All you have is weird whataboutism where you pretend that I support any of those things.

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        every advanced country on Earth has some form of mandatory schooling lol... what are you talking about?

        adult education & deradicalization is only bad if the PRC does it? but the fact that the One Child Policy only applies to Han families in Xinjiang means that cultural genocide is occurring? what are you talking about?

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          deradicalization

          What percentage of Uyghurs does the Chinese government consider radicalized?

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            Regular massive terror attacks in one's country tend to be a sign action is necessary. I'm sure the Chinese imams who support such programs are just puppets, and education is just a ploy by the devious Asiatics of course

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              Does this trust of the state extend to things like the Patriot act?

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                Are you a fucking anarchist lmao? The fact that you'd ask for me to spell out the difference is childish and almost certainly in bad faith.

                'State do thing? Oh really? Have you heard of other state that do other thing'

                You're wasting everyone's time

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                  I don't trust broad counter-terror programs, sorry.

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          every advanced country on Earth has some form of mandatory schooling lol… what are you talking about?

          I'm talking about how attempting to forcibly erase a culture is a crime against humanity.

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            any actual proof such things have occurred, or just rabid anti-communist speculation & sensationalism?

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              You wouldn't accept proof because you're a zealot.

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                  Adrian Zenz

                  He's not a zealot he's a crank :p

                  Massive gulf between believe the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation and being completely uncritical of China's actions.

                  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                    No, Adrian Zenz is literally a zealot

                    he said that Jews have to accept Christ to be allowed into heaven. Zenz also said that he was sent to Earth by God to destroy Communism. Is that what you want too?

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                    https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1160094.shtml this is from last year & seems to indicate things are improving from the perspective of government openness & goodwill

                    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47191952 this is also from last year and maybe passes the sniff-test for you here for “East vs. West media bias” maybe not idgaf

                    https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/china-muslims-work-change-perceptions-after-knife-attacks this is VOA, so it’s definitely tripe, but even it still was giving somewhat of an even-handed & in-depth perspective on the issues at play here in the Obama era

                    https://thediplomat.com/2014/10/chinese-salafism-and-the-saudi-connection/ this too gives nuance and offers wider connections to the general state of Islam globally. But it leaves out key connections between the “openness” reforms of Deng’s era & how these have always led to potentially dangerous Western & even extreme theocratic influences into the country