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the Viet Cong did more for socialism than that Gamer Bro Liberal ever will, but since Anarcho-Market-Socialists like Vaush have never had even a modicum of success historically, they have to point to youtube video makers as true revolutionaries instead of the actual people building socialism right before their eyes.
the thing is that anarcho-market-socialism just seems like Ancapistan but with worker co-ops to me. I don't get why, in this age of technology, you would ever choose to unironically have firms and markets when we could just centrally plan everything.
I think he does see it as a transition stage, though? I used to keep up with him before he really showed his true colors, and I'm pretty sure he saw market socialism merely as a logical next step from where we are now.
Tbh, that's definitely not his worst opinion
yeah I edited my comment, although I'm sort of skeptical of the "transition stage" argument. In a first-world country with a million little firms producing lots of different commodities it would make sense, but for third-world nations (let's be honest - that's the only place where revolution is going to be happening for a long time) then I think it's easier to nationalize the little industry that exists and skip the whole part where you have to root out and dismantle the market system.
This also depends on the state of the world too, since nations like Vietnam and China had to kind of convert back to market-states since they were sanctioned and deprived of any sort of foreign investment. Without another USSR it's hard to commit to a command economy.
The USSR also did markets for a bit, but Stalin shut that down.
There are arguments for Market Socialism, but unless you seriously address the fact that it's capitalism it's just going to eat you alive.
And also that the inherent anarchy of markets rather than a centrally planned economy creates waste and other inefficiencies, something we can't afford if we are serious about dealing with the climate crisis.
It's basically the opinion of the chinese government.
Dress up capitalism with fancy words and pretend it isn't nearly unfettered wealth extraction from your populace.
Completely applicable and completely fair. Continue simping for Jack Ma you lib.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/22/asia/china-ren-zhiqiang-xi-jinping-intl-hnk/index.html this guy was corrupt af and got owned just this year LOL
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-china-31310325 this guy was similarly involved in corruption scandal and international intrigue/organize crime... got owned
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/1502808/Tycoon-paid-3-bn-for-stay-of-execution.html and this shit is just sad LOL... another billionaire OWNED
Dude, you have no idea what you're talking about, Chinese billionaires are kept coloring within the lines & many have been executed for their very serious corruption & dealings with the black market & mafia
You're a lib if you think that jailing a billionaire for 18 years for his fucking slimy corruption is the same as Western capitalism & "liberal democracy" giving Jeffrey Epstein a fucking plea deal
laughable
I think this is exactly right. He talks and acts like an ancap but wants to dress himself up in progressive values.
I'm guessing it's Luna Oi! he was talking about?
Pretty rich, seeing as how she has family members who were literally Viet Minh.
I saw Luna Oi pissed off about it on twitter but didn't know what she was referring to. Vaush is such a douchebag.
Ooh yeah, now we're talking...
Seriously though, this has me genuinely fucked up. How dare this dweeb bitch call himself a socialist, and then turn around and shit all over the brave people of Vietnam? Like what the actual fuck!?
How dare this dweeb bitch call himself a socialist, and then turn around and shit all over the brave people of Vietnam
Western Leftism with Cracker Characteristics. Get used to it, it makes up the majority of leftists in the USA
smells motivated by "the threat of a good example" and just adds to the feeling that he's a wrecker op
I see what you're saying, but I dunno. I have a feeling that at this point anti-communism is already so ingrained in the western "left" that it self-perpetuates without the need for any ops. It's become organic and as natural as breathing air.
Depressing as fuck, but I fear it's true.
think she was talking about him in this
https://twitter.com/LunaOi_VN/status/1318506768616452096
But...these tweets...are owning him for that? So this fucking moron went out of his way to get dunked on?
Right but the only response to him saying this dumbass shit is just to repeat the tweet. Is he really that up his own ass that he thinks just stating the thing again overcomes this? Christ imagine that level of narcissism.
Vaush is just lashing out because the fact Luna is dating a kinda dorky white guy makes him horribly jealous and insecure.
Hanoi wept.
He's just so earnestly bad. Like none of cultural residue from the early internet or aughts rubbed off on him. He's like a shitty Buttigieg clone larping as a leftist.
I had a few days where i watched the guy. You are so spot on. His constant shouting about America #1 is what turned me off. At first I thoguht it might be a bit, but he kept doing it without a hint of irony. Fuck this guy.
The US faked an attack on their own warship to go to war with Vietnam during their war against communism because....why?
Collective farming? Healthcare, literacy, food security? stable government that lasts more than 3 years and roots out capitalists and Nazis? Yep, just found out I'm talking to a tankie. Wowzers, you're getting blocked. Smh Red Fash taking over this forum
They did for the 'gram
They did it for the memes
They did it for shits and giggles
People are so fucking rude to Luna it's completely indefensible
who would be rude to luna? shes like the best youtuber.
I hate how people like Destiny, and Vaush are considered like, prominent leftists and/or what a lot of folks think any sorta leftism is. It's so bad man
They definitely use to, he would be lumped into the liberal-to-leftist streamers/content creators. He isn't a leftist at all, he is a fucking reactionary
Yeah for sure agree with that, he is has always been one of those "outrage" type streamers who got most of his attention by saying incredibly toxic and vile shit. If I recall correctly he really blew up when Starcraft 2 came out. I'll never forget when he made a very colorful r*pe joke in sc2 that really blew up and basically writing him off as another edgy right winger, only to late find out he has some liberal views, which apparently doesn't make him a reactionary or something stupid? He use to(or still?) debate right wingers so I think that is mostly why people think he is a "leftist."
You could be old, but I also envy your nonawarness about these people cause, truly, if i could, i would men in black erase my memory of them forever if i could with a flash
That second quote doesn't even begin to cover it. He goes on a whole rant about how they're all mentally ill and worse for leftism than its enemies.
I posted a compilation on my YouTube channel a few months back and it nearly got the channel taken down from Vaush reports--most of my videos, including done Minecraft videos from middle school, of all things, were taken down in the brigade.
Vaush fucking sucks. I’m becoming more and more convinced that the only goal he’s ever had was to replace Destiny as the internet’s #1 shitlib streamer.
Holy shit if I see this person's name one more time. Can one of us just challenge him to a pistol duel?
Seriously, would love to see a blanket ban of their name just we all shut up about them lol
Idk about yall but Luna oi fucking predicted this shit like AGES ago, she fuckin had a parody skit of western leftists saying "VIETNAM ISN'T SOCIALIST!!!11!!" in her own video and proceeded to deconstruct it.
I don't care about the Contrapoints shit, but I do care about the fact that today Vaush said tha-
Stop the tape right there. This where it went wrong. Caring about insufferable youtuber's opinion is how you have a bad time online.
I am pleased and proud to say I don't know who Vaush is and, in fact, I frequently think people are talking about noted rapist Roosh V.
oof. Really? I mean, idk who Vaush is but Roosh is a very bad person.
