Just spoke to my mom who is a centrist liberal and never talks to me about politics. she said “I don’t think I’m going to be voting. I feel sick to my stomach about both these two.”

Two of the easiest elections in the history of this country and the dems just blew em both.

  • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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    I think the anti-Trump vote barely existed in 2016, it exists now. So Biden could still pull it off, he is still favored IMO.

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      Wasn’t Hillary’s whole campaign anti-Trump and girl bosses who were anti-Trump anyways?

      • PeterTheAverage [he/him]
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        The difference is that in 2016 Trump didn't have a terrible 4 year track record that he had to defend and could spin a narrative about being anti-establishment. He can't do that now. The anti-Trump fervor this year is significantly stronger.

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        Yes, but there wasn't much of an anti-Trump vote in swing states. The people who hated both candidate hugely split for Trump and won him the election. It will be the opposite this time.

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          I don’t trust people to vote for a candidate because they don’t like the other one. I’ve never seen it be a winning strategy.

          Either way we will continue to take it to the streets and fuck the police.

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            It's not a winning strategy, it's just that most people do what you do in a typical top 2 electoral system. Vote your conscience in the primary and then vote for the person closer to you ideologically in the general.

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      You'd be hard pressed to find any credible institution who's opinion isn't that Biden will win.

      • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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        The broad media opinion tends to still be more skeptical than it was in 2016, back then it was inevitable that Clinton would win. This time it's much more "Trump could still win, but it looks good for Biden".