WARNING USERS, THERE IS AN OPERATION BY RIGHT-WING TROLLS TO INFILTRATE HEXBEAR, BECAUSE THEY ARE MAD TRANS PEOPLE ARE HAVING A GOOD TIME , PLEASE PROCEED WITH CAUTION

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ok gang I'm thinking of leading a wretched of the earth book club in January and after that we do a trinity of fundamentals thoughts?

    • thelastaxolotl [he/him]M
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      3 days ago

      They are an arab-american from their comments, but that doesnt stop him from being obnoxious

    • sweet_pecan [love/loves, they/them]
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      3 days ago

      My apologies but we cant call other poc white for being in defense of white supremacist tactics. We've had some issues with false accusations of whiteness in the past and we dont want that.

      the user in question is Egyptian I believe

      • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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        White Supremacist tactics? I think you have me confused. I'm the kind of hardliner anti-imperialist 3rd worldist who wants the complete and total destruction of the white supremacist west. I wouldn't blink at any amount of terror inflicted upon the USA/Israel or its accomplices.

        The context of these comments is discussion around Syrians or Sunni Muslims from the region posting about how relieved they and their families are Assad is overthrown and Sunni supremacists have taken power.

        I’m Arab and have a family full of Arab shitlibs who also celebrated the defeat of Assad.

        The defeat of Assad is the defeat of Gaza and Palestine, it’s the destruction of the axis of resistance. I am sick and tired of my fellow Arabs around me cheering on Zionist victories like idiots, and then to see that sentiment here too pushed me to being quite angry. People cheering for the genocide of Palestine essentially because they are too stupid to realize they have been duped, or possibly people abandoning Palestine and retreating into their own reactionary sectarian squabbles because it's easier. Oh zionists appears to be winning against Palestine? Nevermind I don't care about Palestine now I care about "sunni oppression" by the Alawite menace or whatever the fuck idiocy they've been sold by the turks and daesh, let's ignore the massize Israeli invasion and landgrab and bombing campaigns and just imagine we don't have to fight them - just like the other arab states delude themselves.

        Frauddog walked into the middle of that vagueposting context, and perhaps didn’t understand what they were defending. Their argument in that context meant that people on the news mega should shut up and listen to comprador HTS softpeddling. That we were wrong to critically support Assad and should have listened to Al Qaeda Zionists instead.

        You might see where my sentiment is coming from that I don’t think white communists here on this site should defer to the standard Arab position because the standard Arab position is a shitlib Zionist comprador one. The axis of resistance is the decolonial force in the region, and HTS are NATO-backed colonizers. The majority users on this site, at least in the news mega, have a better grasp on the situation in the Middle East than my family members do, and they have a more correct and decolonial analysis. They shouldn’t shut up and listen to compradors, they have a firm Marxist analysis why would they toss that away in favor of some Arab liberal views?

        I come to this site to escape stupid muslim sectarian reactionary nonsense that surrounds me and find fellow decolonial marxists who would support pan-arabism. Maybe this context helps you put together why I don't think the "stupid white commies of the news mega" should bow before the HTS apologists, and what I was talking about when I was speaking of "reactionary and imperialist narratives" pushed by compradors. Go into arab speaking social media around the fall of Assad to see the absolute shit show, 50% of those people really are brainwashed by zionists into believing in an alternate reality. UAE, Turks, Qatar, Saudis are all pushing this zionist anti-zionism. People with Palestine flags cheering on Hezbollah being surrounded by Israel, cheering American proxies taking power and Iran getting punched in the nose.

        • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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          2 days ago

          Maybe this context helps you put together why I don't think the "stupid white commies of the news mega" should bow before the HTS apologists, and what I was talking about when I was speaking of "reactionary and imperialist narratives" pushed by compradors.

          And let's be honest. Outside of the em_poc mega, the news mega has the highest concentration of POC users. It's extraordinary silly for the place with the highest percentage of POC users to go after the place with the second highest percentage of POC users. And not every POC newshead has ever participated in the em_poc mega. Honestly, most of them haven't. If anything, there should be an alliance of sorts between the two megas. If the news mega somehow disappears or moves to a different instance, Hexbear will be even whiter with shittier politics to boot than it is right now.

          • sweet_pecan [love/loves, they/them]
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            2 days ago

            while i think the intentions of this are good there is still soo much unchallenged bigotry (antiblackness specificly), toxicity, debate pervertism, in the news com. there is also a strange worshiping of whiteness and white men that goes on there that is unsettling. i dont think this "allience" would result in anything positive until such issues are addressed. lastly ive have TWO poc news mega users leaver yesterday and many more over the past 2 month and almost all the ones ive mannaged to talk to have mentioned the toxicity of the news mega being a main reason for them leaving. so yeah i dont think youre on the ball here.

            • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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              2 days ago

              With regards to Hexbear not being a welcoming space for POC people, the primary contradiction is the fact that Hexbear is 85%+ white. I wouldn't consider a space to be 85% white to be safe for POC at all no matter the professed political beliefs of those white people. Just imagine getting invited to a wedding where the attendants are 85% white. The only exception is if those particular white people have been ruthlessly vetted by POC who I personally know and trust, which is impossible to do in an anonymous forum. I have said this before, but the fact that Hexbear isn't something like 60% POC is a fucking disgrace.

              At the end of the day, the news mega is just a thread, and nobody quits a website over a single thread. What most likely happened is that those POC immediately knew something was up with general Hexbear, huddled into the two places on Hexbear that isn't 85% white (here and the news mega), and got burned out by the news mega for various reasons.

              There has been talk among some news mega regulars that the news mega should move to a different site. If you think the new mega is such a problem, then you should be happy. The news mega can fuck off to a different website, and nobody here has to put up with their bullshit anymore. But I suspect that it would be a monkey's paw situation. Just look at all the new people coming in from Bluesky. They're basically all white, and none of them have been vetted to be safe around POC. Not sure how it would benefit POC if Hexbear goes from 85% white to 90% white.

              • FunkYankkkees [they/them, pup/pup's]
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                2 days ago

                none of them have been vetted to be safe around POC

                One of them admitted to being a former USAmerican soldier in their bio. I would argue that the empire's band of spree killers are unsafe to be around.

                • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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                  2 days ago

                  This is another source of my frustration with some people here targeting the news mega. The real powder keg is the new Bluesky users. In the end, they came from a social media website where the average user is practically salivating at all the Palestinians Trump is going to deport to Gaza because the Palestinians rightfully refuse to vote for someone with Palestinian blood on their hands. Remember, the straw that broke their backs wasn't any of the heinous shit those ex blue checks said about Palestinians and other POC who refuse to vote for Harris even though election after election have shown time and time again that the number one correlation of GOP voters is whether or not they're white. Don't be surprised if one of them gets caught up in a struggle session that causes Hexbear to hemorrhage even more POC users.