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ok gang I'm thinking of leading a wretched of the earth book club in January and after that we do a trinity of fundamentals thoughts?
My apologies but we cant call other poc white for being in defense of white supremacist tactics. We've had some issues with false accusations of whiteness in the past and we dont want that.
the user in question is Egyptian I believe
White Supremacist tactics? I think you have me confused. I'm the kind of hardliner anti-imperialist 3rd worldist who wants the complete and total destruction of the white supremacist west. I wouldn't blink at any amount of terror inflicted upon the USA/Israel or its accomplices.
The context of these comments is discussion around Syrians or Sunni Muslims from the region posting about how relieved they and their families are Assad is overthrown and Sunni supremacists have taken power.
I’m Arab and have a family full of Arab shitlibs who also celebrated the defeat of Assad.
The defeat of Assad is the defeat of Gaza and Palestine, it’s the destruction of the axis of resistance. I am sick and tired of my fellow Arabs around me cheering on Zionist victories like idiots, and then to see that sentiment here too pushed me to being quite angry. People cheering for the genocide of Palestine essentially because they are too stupid to realize they have been duped, or possibly people abandoning Palestine and retreating into their own reactionary sectarian squabbles because it's easier. Oh zionists appears to be winning against Palestine? Nevermind I don't care about Palestine now I care about "sunni oppression" by the Alawite menace or whatever the fuck idiocy they've been sold by the turks and daesh, let's ignore the massize Israeli invasion and landgrab and bombing campaigns and just imagine we don't have to fight them - just like the other arab states delude themselves.
Frauddog walked into the middle of that vagueposting context, and perhaps didn’t understand what they were defending. Their argument in that context meant that people on the news mega should shut up and listen to comprador HTS softpeddling. That we were wrong to critically support Assad and should have listened to Al Qaeda Zionists instead.
You might see where my sentiment is coming from that I don’t think white communists here on this site should defer to the standard Arab position because the standard Arab position is a shitlib Zionist comprador one. The axis of resistance is the decolonial force in the region, and HTS are NATO-backed colonizers. The majority users on this site, at least in the news mega, have a better grasp on the situation in the Middle East than my family members do, and they have a more correct and decolonial analysis. They shouldn’t shut up and listen to compradors, they have a firm Marxist analysis why would they toss that away in favor of some Arab liberal views?
I come to this site to escape stupid muslim sectarian reactionary nonsense that surrounds me and find fellow decolonial marxists who would support pan-arabism. Maybe this context helps you put together why I don't think the "stupid white commies of the news mega" should bow before the HTS apologists, and what I was talking about when I was speaking of "reactionary and imperialist narratives" pushed by compradors. Go into arab speaking social media around the fall of Assad to see the absolute shit show, 50% of those people really are brainwashed by zionists into believing in an alternate reality. UAE, Turks, Qatar, Saudis are all pushing this zionist anti-zionism. People with Palestine flags cheering on Hezbollah being surrounded by Israel, cheering American proxies taking power and Iran getting punched in the nose.
And let's be honest. Outside of the em_poc mega, the news mega has the highest concentration of POC users. It's extraordinary silly for the place with the highest percentage of POC users to go after the place with the second highest percentage of POC users. And not every POC newshead has ever participated in the em_poc mega. Honestly, most of them haven't. If anything, there should be an alliance of sorts between the two megas. If the news mega somehow disappears or moves to a different instance, Hexbear will be even whiter with shittier politics to boot than it is right now.
while i think the intentions of this are good there is still soo much unchallenged bigotry (antiblackness specificly), toxicity, debate pervertism, in the news com. there is also a strange worshiping of whiteness and white men that goes on there that is unsettling. i dont think this "allience" would result in anything positive until such issues are addressed. lastly ive have TWO poc news mega users leaver yesterday and many more over the past 2 month and almost all the ones ive mannaged to talk to have mentioned the toxicity of the news mega being a main reason for them leaving. so yeah i dont think youre on the ball here.
With regards to Hexbear not being a welcoming space for POC people, the primary contradiction is the fact that Hexbear is 85%+ white. I wouldn't consider a space to be 85% white to be safe for POC at all no matter the professed political beliefs of those white people. Just imagine getting invited to a wedding where the attendants are 85% white. The only exception is if those particular white people have been ruthlessly vetted by POC who I personally know and trust, which is impossible to do in an anonymous forum. I have said this before, but the fact that Hexbear isn't something like 60% POC is a fucking disgrace.
At the end of the day, the news mega is just a thread, and nobody quits a website over a single thread. What most likely happened is that those POC immediately knew something was up with general Hexbear, huddled into the two places on Hexbear that isn't 85% white (here and the news mega), and got burned out by the news mega for various reasons.
There has been talk among some news mega regulars that the news mega should move to a different site. If you think the new mega is such a problem, then you should be happy. The news mega can fuck off to a different website, and nobody here has to put up with their bullshit anymore. But I suspect that it would be a monkey's paw situation. Just look at all the new people coming in from Bluesky. They're basically all white, and none of them have been vetted to be safe around POC. Not sure how it would benefit POC if Hexbear goes from 85% white to 90% white.
One of them admitted to being a former USAmerican soldier in their bio. I would argue that the empire's band of spree killers are unsafe to be around.
This is another source of my frustration with some people here targeting the news mega. The real powder keg is the new Bluesky users. In the end, they came from a social media website where the average user is practically salivating at all the Palestinians Trump is going to deport to Gaza because the Palestinians rightfully refuse to vote for someone with Palestinian blood on their hands. Remember, the straw that broke their backs wasn't any of the heinous shit those ex blue checks said about Palestinians and other POC who refuse to vote for Harris even though election after election have shown time and time again that the number one correlation of GOP voters is whether or not they're white. Don't be surprised if one of them gets caught up in a struggle session that causes Hexbear to hemorrhage even more POC users.
i have thoughts but i need to wash my hair, and also why do they want theIr own site again?
It boils down to real and imagined grievances against the admins.
The news mega is also basically the only place I can see Non-American perspectives on the site. The anger from that thread I saw seemed to be Americans wandering into a thread that's internationally focused, spouting something trying to be relatable I guess but came off unrelated and directly contradictory to the current problem they were talking about at worst, then getting mad when it was pushed back on.
I wonder if American POC perspectives can be shocked when they wander into that thread just as much as American white perspectives, leading to confusing cross talk life this. The original poster was talking any colonizer-colonized dynamics, and how the colonized can be tricked by a lack of knowledge of international Imperialist relations. Not victims of white supremacy in the Imperial core getting talked over by well meaning but privileged white people, a very different, very American-centric problem. There are different priorities, allies, etc for these different groups, and coming in second when the context is already established and then getting mad the person doesn't accept your attempt to shift the conversation to their problems seems kinda, idk, bleh. Entitled? Idk the word. It maybe would've been more relatable if they talked about, "ya, it sucks when the Candace Owen, Ben Carson, and the Herman Cain's of the world come in as a member of the colonized class but talk like white supremacists". That's a bit more related to the original topic at hand in that particular thread everyone is talking about. For the record, if the latter problem was talked about first, then ya, I'd see the problem, but the conversation was already set in the other context.
But maybe I'm lucky. I feel sorta new here and haven't seen too much antiblackness in there yet. Seem some strange worshipping of white men, but it's definitely felt less racist than mainstream American news at least. The EM POC and News mega have been a fresh of breath air since I joined and would hate to see either leave, for different reasons.
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i deleted it because it was too mean. let me eat and start my day, and then be less mean
Oh I see...
I, too, oppose takfiri salafiist zionist-aligned interests, of the Khaleej and Turkiye