This is a real problem on here that I think ought to be talked about. Especially since someone else on here recently told me that they have had exactly the same problem, it seems really widespread.

For the past couple of months, I've been relying on the generosity of people on this site, mainly mutual aid, to feed myself and buy basic essentials. A couple of people have come through and helped me. However, most of the posts I've made have attracted replies, both in the thread and in PMs, offering help, which the person messaging me never follows through on. This causes several problems:

  1. Other people who might have helped see the replies in the thread offering help and think "This person is already being helped, so I won't bother," thereby causing the person asking for help to lose whatever help they may otherwise have obtained.

  2. It causes stress because I don't know whether the person just changed their mind, or whether they were tricking me to get my details and now intend to use them for fraudulent purposes.

  3. It's just awful to get your hopes up with an offer of help and check back day after day for it, and it never materialises, and you have the dawning realisation that it's not coming.

This has happened time and time again, usually the person sends an offer of help and when I reply to take them up on it, they just never respond. However there have been instances where I've been strung along for a while. The most recent incident happened over this past week.

Someone sent me a 4 paragraph long essay about how they'd seen my posts and wanted to help, they listed all the ways they'd thought of helping me, from sending food parcels, to their leftover cash in foreign currencies, to paypal, etc but found reasons against all of these ideas, so they said they were sending me a food voucher as I'd asked for in previous threads. I responded to accept.

They then sent another 4 paragraph message, just rambling about random stuff. I responded. Days passed and I didn't hear from them. So eventually I sent a message asking if they were having trouble with the voucher. They responded "Sorry, I've been busy, I'll do it soon."

Days passed. I thought he was too busy as he'd said, but then I saw him making endless posts, at all hours of the day and night, chatting to people. He didn't seem busy. Eventually I realised, he's not coming through. Aside from the crushing disappointment, now I am worried about what he hopes to achieve. Why did he do this, is he planning to do something with my email address? Or is he really just so oblivious he doesn't realise how this affects me?

I've had other incidents too. One person contacted me offering help and asking for my details. Days passed, I didn't hear anything, so I asked if there was any problem. He wrote back, "Oh, my wife found out I was going to send money to someone on the internet and said I'm not allowed to do it." OK, but he didn't even bother to tell me until I messaged him. I was checking back hopefully every day while he'd already decided it wasn't happening.

This has happened more times than I have the energy to type. Why do people do this? Please remember there is a real person in desperate need on the other end of the requests you see on mutual aid. Not following through on offers of help causes disappointment, stress and worry. And if you're broadcasting your offer of help in the thread, it's probably stopping other people from helping so you've cost them whatever help they would have received from someone else.

  • dustbunnies [she/her, comrade/them]
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    1 day ago

    And if you're broadcasting your offer of help in the thread, it's probably stopping other people from helping

    concern about this is why I've never mentioned helping anyone in their threads

    I know this isn't why you made this post, but I'm really sorry I haven't been able to help you more. I worry about you often.

    anyone reading this considering helping OP, please do. though they'd deserve our help even if they weren't, they're a genuinely lovely person who has been dealt a horrifyingly bad hand by life and is forced to live in severe poverty to get any government assistance, without which they would literally die.

    the few gift cards I've been able to send here and there for groceries made a real difference, and I know it would make a huge difference if you sent one, too.

  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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    1 day ago

    They just want your personal info. They purposely target you knowing that you are desperate. They get off knowing that you have to beg them for help and they get off knowing parts of your private life that you had been forced to reveal.

    • DisabledAceSocialist [comrade/them]
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      1 day ago

      I am starting to think this is the most likely scenario. The way some people write their messages it does sound like a fetish or a power trip or something.

  • Tomboymoder [she/her, pup/pup's]
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    1 day ago

    I will say I was getting paid to watch my elderly relative awhile back and sending people money from that on cash app, but now I’ve moved to another country and have no source of income so I’ve stopped.

    Sorry if anyone was relying on me.

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    1 day ago

    It sucks, I've had someone ghost me from here too. Helped me out for months then totally dropped off the face of the earth. I figured life stuff must have got into the way but at least drop me a line like someone else did that they couldn't help me anymore and I'd understand.

    • Aria 🏳️‍⚧️🇧🇩 [she]@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 day ago

      yeah i agree, it would've been more emotionally mature if they got back and said "hey i can't help anymore because of x and y reasons". better that than keep you hanging along.

      but i guess they're worried if they'd get backlash for chiming in to say that they can't help you anymore suddenly? in which case, is it really your responsibility anymore if they do lash out? you did what you can to help, and ultimately, your betterment should come first before others. how can you help others without helping yourself/making sure you're doing okay first? but if you really wanted to, you can also point them to someone else who could help as a kind gesture, that you really do care for them.

      idk, this is just what i think. ghosting is fucking stupid and cowardly imo. just fess up, this ain't kindergarten anymore.

  • TomBombadil [he/him, she/her]
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    1 day ago

    I can only imagine people feel the desire to talk to someone? But don't know how to start a conversation??

    This is my thought not based on evidence so I'm probably wrong. Regardless doesn't excuse it and I don't really get it. I feel bad enough if Im offline for a few days only to return to messages. I worry people think I'm ignoring them.

    • DisabledAceSocialist [comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      1 day ago

      I had one who used it as an excuse to try and get a girlfriend.

      He sent me a message, saying that if I gave him my address he would send me a takeaway off justeat. I was starving and desperate, so I gave him my address. For the rest of the night, every couple of hours, I'd ask if the food was on the way and he'd say he was busy but would send it soon. (not too busy to be chatting online all night.) Eventually it became clear he wasn't going to send it. But it didn't end there. He started bombarding me with messages, saying he was lonely, wanted a girlfriend and was sure I must be beautiful. He said he was coming to my house to visit me. He didn't ask if he could come, he said he was coming and would probably be here "around 10am tomorrow."

      Of course this freaked me tf out. I did everything I could to dissuade him. I told him I'm not beautiful, I am not looking for a boyfriend, I am too ill for visitors, I'm not allowed visitors here. But he refused to accept any excuses and the situation got so dire I had to tell him that if he came I would call the police. But that was one scary week dealing with that.

      Unfortunately 90% of the people who've responded to my messages have either ghosted me or strung me along or been scary weirdos. But I keep posting requests when I need help because 10% of people who've responded have actually been good and helped me and without them I wouldn't have made it through this far.

      • Aradina [She/They]@lemmy.ml
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        1 day ago

        I'm so sorry that happened to you.

        Did you report the person that did that? DMs can be viewed by instance admins, so it's easy to report. That kind of behaviour needs to be stamped out aggressively.

        • DisabledAceSocialist [comrade/them]
          hexagon
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          1 day ago

          Thanks. The weirdo who wanted to date me happened on reddit just before I found this site, but all the other instances happened on here and lemmygrad.

      • TomBombadil [he/him, she/her]
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        1 day ago

        Wow. That's awful. Fuckin hell. I truly cannot understand what happens in some people's heads.

        I'm glad atleast some people follow through. But man that's disheartening.