linky, well full-er, he already was unhinged around china

  • PKMKII [none/use name]
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    17 hours ago

    The part that’s most frustrating about this is you know his ideal “response” is not going to be, nationalize industries, subsidize manufacturing sectors that need growth, targeted tariffs to ensure that imports will be coming from a wide variety of countries. Noooo, it’s gone be, how can we do the free market neoliberalism that got us here in the first place even harder?

  • keepcarrot [she/her]
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    22 hours ago

    Sounds like they were pretty successful and would be guys you'd want on your side

    • plinky [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 day ago

      Spanish silver traders in 1600s be like

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    23 hours ago

    So the argument is that China allowing American capital to move production there is akin ton businesses taking advantage of the demented by tricking them into signing up for obviously bad deals?

    • plinky [he/him]
      hexagon
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      22 hours ago

      The argument is that 1.4 billion chinese should buy all their needs from 300 million americans and know their place

  • reverendz [comrade/them]
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    1 day ago

    It's ridiculous.

    China doesn't have to get the West to de-industrialize. The bankers and capitalists have been doing it to the West for 40 years.

    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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      1 day ago

      China MADE the American billionaires lay off all their workers and close down their factories. Those poor billionaires didn't want to, but big meany China said they had to

    • Palacegalleryratio [he/him]
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      21 hours ago

      Yeah, but it won’t be profitable to industrialise America vs using Chinese industrial capacity. So capitalism can’t do that. Line must go up.

    • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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      24 hours ago

      Without large enough sales market it would impossible to maintain the required level of industry. In fact, one of the reason for deindustrialization is the shrinking of available markets.

    • plinky [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 day ago

      The perfidious chinese should smoke the opium, buy our steel and make our nick-nacks, not make cars and solar panels maddened

  • edge [he/him]
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    1 day ago

    The US deindustrialized itself my guy. It just handed off global manufacturing to China for a quick buck.

    • KurtVonnegut [comrade/them]
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      1 day ago

      Specifically, USA corporations moved industrial production to other nations because other nations had lower labor costs. So the best way to get manufacturing back in the USA is to raise the standard of living + wages dramatically in developing countries.

  • peeonyou [he/him]
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    1 day ago

    so it was China's master plan to coax the US into abusing China for cheap labor and materials and to pollute their environment all in an effort to deindustrialize the US 40+ years down the road... that's a long game there

  • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
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    1 day ago

    Instead of seeing Chinese trade surpluses as the everyone else getting shit for "free" (China accumulates US Dollars, Briish Pounds etc, all the major first world currencies), they instead see "deindustrialization".

    US should enjoy China being so generous with its exports while trying to build its own industrial base with the help of the state. American capitalists clearly aren't interested in building industries.

    No one ever seems to complain about German trade surpluses destroying rest of the EU nations.

  • CrawlMarks [he/him]
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    1 day ago

    Wait... they might be right. Did china seized the means for production?