From the Mundane Luxury page.

Imagine believing soldiers would steal washing machines of all things lmao. Like just picture some guy lugging one around along with 30+ kg of gear or trying to stuff it into the crew compartment of a BTR-80 along with himself and his squadmates.

  • Parzivus [any]
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    11 days ago

    There is an ounce of truth to the WWII anecdote. Both Soviet and Allied troops were stunned at how well German civilians were living, even in 1945, compared to the Polish and French people they had just liberated. It mostly eliminated any idea that the Germans were also suffering or were victims of Hitler.

    • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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      11 days ago

      Excellent point and it's funny how the west still likes to have it both ways, to simultaneously paint the Soviets as backwards savages while also painting the nazi german citizens as poor little smol beans who couldn't be blamed for mean ol' hitler

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          11 days ago
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    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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      11 days ago

      how well German civilians were living, even in 1945,

      It helps when you report your neighbors for being Jewish/homosexuals/slavic/communists/Roma/Jehovah's Witnesses/disabled to the SS who take them away to death camps and you get to steal all their stuff. Especially if they didn't manage to hide their valuables to smuggle into ghettos or concentration camps and you got to take those things for yourself. In some cases, people took over entire businesses, restaurants, or shops from their "undesirable" neighbors.

      • Hexamerous [none/use name]
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        11 days ago

        Would be interesting to see how much wealth transfer the average German got from the extermination. What I want to know is how much it costs to turn the average lib into a murderer. How many Big Macs would it cost? Maybe we can compare it to how much the average Israeli gets and start a MacHitler index or something.

        • Lemister [none/use name]
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          10 days ago

          wealth transfer mostly benefited the upper and earliest members of the nazi party but they used membership in the party as propaganda tool, since you basically "needed" membership to land a "good job" and get promoted. The possibility of getting shit from the dispossession of undesirables was a major factor in the Nazis' getting support.

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      11 days ago

      makes me think of Come and See, the murder tourist scene

    • Lemister [none/use name]
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      11 days ago

      One of the major excuses for Lebensraum was that Germany was too poor due to lack of natural resources (I.E not enough land to feed people) and starvation-prone and thats why the needed to colonize Poland, Ukraine and Russia. So they needed more "room" to "live".