now?

  • itsPina [he/him, she/her]
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    4 years ago

    one of you dork ass dorks explain vtubers to me in a way that doesnt make me a reactionary

    • Aklangi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      They're just like normal streamers, but instead of using a webcam they use face-tracking software to display an anime character. For people(weebs) that have a hard time connecting to real people, it helps bridge that gap. Also since a lot of them are part of companies together they are friends with each other and meet up, so them talking about when they hung out recently and what not really hits that parasocial relationship angle, for me at least.

      • itsPina [he/him, she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Ok thank you for the information. Next struggle session will be about how fucking awful streamer culture is.

        • wubblewobble [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Kinda agree to a point. I don't think vtubers are any worse than regular streamers, but I absolutely do not understand why streamers are popular.

          • Ronalpinhos [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            I like plenty of MTG strsamers, thet play cool decks, they have charisma and dont play out donations very much/long.

            • wubblewobble [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Sure. I don't want to attack anyone that enjoys that kind of stuff. I can watch streams of complicated games if i want to learn them, but the format is not really for me. The streams are too long, and with most games that are streamed, you can't really do anything else without missing most of it.

          • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            I'm not big on streams either, but the main reason I watch the occasional clip or archived stream (and Lets Plays when those were a thing) is to see people react to games I've played in the past- it scratches that same itch you got when you had a friend over to have them play or watch something

            I also study Japanese for fun and have always liked Japanese gameplay videos from that angle, so Vtuber content being so prevalent is a boon in that regard even if I find the broader fan culture kind of grating

    • wubblewobble [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I was told this is a good introduction to the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ9mH4YC6MY

      If this is about the semi-recent shitstorm with hololive talents mentioning taiwan, go watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttPEaNnGhrc

      • itsPina [he/him, she/her]
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        4 years ago

        that seemed like a good video (the top one) from the start but i dont think i can bear the amount of cringe per minute (cpm) that that vid is offering

            • wubblewobble [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              I don't think I know any that are communist per se (except maybe the Chinese one about Karl Marx, but I haven't gotten around to actually watch it) but I can recommend some with strong leftist themes:

              Code Geass is basically Reform or Revolution - the anime.

              Psycho Pass is a cyberpunk dystopia with a police force that tries to prevent crimes before they happen (and a super heavy criticism on why that is a majorly stupid idea)

              Princess Principal is a steampunk spy drama set in a alternate universe london, where a proletarian revolution of some kind has split the city in two. It can be a bit lib at times but I absolutely love this show.

            • Awoo [she/her]
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              4 years ago

              There really aren't any explicitly ML state anime, but there's good revolutionary struggle anime and there's good anime that hides that it is depicting communist society.

              Houseki no Kuni is a clearly a communist society for example and is filled with allegories to capitalist encirclement and the relationship of the people and the state.

      • itsPina [he/him, she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Streamers who has camera software to have anime avatars animated in real time. Cringe shit tbh

        • itsPina [he/him, she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Yes. I love Jojos Bizarre Adventure but hate weeb culture. Liking media is different than being engulfed in it.

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                4 years ago

                God imagine if people spoke like how JoJo characters spoke, that would make life so much more interesting. You walk up to a Mc Donalds and the guy behind the cash register poses at you and says “You want a burger and I know that because I’m very precise you see. I can tell from looking at your body that you’re a meat eater, however, that meat is usually consumed in a unhealthy amount and of unhealthy quality. Do you know who the polish painter Zdzisław Bekiński? In most of his paintings he would draw broken and blackened worlds with large destroyed buildings. I work here because this run down McDonalds reminds me of his work.”

                • itsPina [he/him, she/her]
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                  4 years ago

                  That would be pretty epic indeed. Jojo is a good series about an author discovering how gay he is while browsing through a thesaurus and using that for plot

    • itsPina [he/him, she/her]
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      4 years ago

      dont call yourself a weeb. Say you like anime. Calling yourself a weeb gives serious Weeb vibes.

        • itsPina [he/him, she/her]
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          4 years ago

          aint lookin good chief. Just consider yourself on the bottom of the list, right below gamers, for who will die in my social revolution. Self deprecation is what makes a weeb a Weeb.

        • wubblewobble [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          There are a lot of people who call themselves weebs but are definitely not capital W weebs. I don't think it is very useful to stop using that label.

  • RION [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Mildly off-topic, but what is and isn't considered "anime" weirds me out. Purists like to say that it only refers to animation made in Japan, so does that mean if a Japanese production company moved out of the country their work wouldn't be anime anymore? At least with the similar issue of champagne there is the factor of climate and soil composition which, although potentially closely matched by other locations, is unique to the Champagne region in France. Anime has no such environmental reliance and linking it specifically to the nation it was made in feels lazy and exclusionary for no reason. At least say that it's something to do with the Japanese cultural milieu, although I don't think that's universal either.