Chinese state media Xinhua published an editorial slamming the portrayal of men in Chinese media, claiming the popularity of the "sickly aesthetics" in effeminate celebrities was having an adverse impact on teenagers.

Xinhua said that "sissy pants" or "little fresh meats" — who they describe as effeminate young men who use makeup, are slender and wear androgynous clothing — were hurting China's national image.

  • spectre [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The CCP has a long way to go on LGBT issues. The article makes it sound like there's more of a cultural shift going on under the surface though, so maybe progress will be sudden like it was in the US (probably faster, considering things happen pretty quick over there)

    • Yun [he/him]
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      The article was written in 2018. I don't know shit about LGBT in China but at least according Naomi Wu, things are starting to get better recently. For example, earlier this year, a trans woman won a discrimination lawsuit against her employer: https://supchina.com/2020/07/06/chinese-trans-woman-wins-sex-discrimination-lawsuit-against-employer-in-landmark-victory/

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        4 years ago

        good to hear, solidarity to her and other LGBT comrades (and LGBT non-comrades) around the world

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        Ultimately they’re still a developing country. I will place them on an equal and fair comparative footing when they truly enter true parity with the west.

        Yeah true, as they approach parity, it's more important for us to hold them accountable as leftists, though we absolutely must do so in a way that does not empower western imperial interests, of course.

    • StalinVibes [she/her,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah it's definitely a dividing issue within the party between young people and old people, it seems to be getting better in recent years with some court decisions coming down in lgbtq people's favor.

    • kimilsungist [they/them]
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      there was a recent major ruling for a transwoman that was being discriminated at the Job. She won. China is not there yet, but to say they have a "long way to go" like i mean even america has a long way to go.

    • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      masculinity is a bit like white pride.

      okay, sure, youre proud of your quaker grangran and how she helped with the underground railroad, but thats not what white pride parades are about babe.

      just wish there were a better way to explain that than "toxic masculinity" because no one wants to think that their masculinity is toxic

      • Whodonedidit [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Thats the most frustrating ever to explain to people. Those men can't seem to divorce masculinity as a concept from their performance behavior and ego. Yet apparently men are sooo good at 'compartmentalizing'.

        That masculinity is hurting you too, dear, its not an attack at you but on your behalf by behaviors you were forcefully taught to enact.

      • Grownbravy [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        I remember reading from a literature anthology book how often times modern western men never owned their own masculinity but instead insisted it existed in others and it was such a strange idea, but it stuck with me

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      4 years ago

      No it was not. The mistake is emasculation and masculinity threat.
      It is only a defensive or threatened masculinity that poses any risk of harm to others.
      Being masculine is totally harmless and there is no dichotomy between masculine and feminine traits.

      What results from masculinity threat is theatrical toxic masculinity.
      Masculinity threat and false dichotomies construct an anxiety towards femininity, empathy, emotion, vulnerability.

      Emasculation ties perceived masculinity onto social status; such that theatrical toxic masculinity becomes adaptive behavior within toxic cultures.

      As a transwoman, I am not the least worried about hypermasculine men; but toxic masculinity is a different matter.
      Some of the most LGBTQ accepting people I know are hypermasculine men, because they understand their own gender as self-expression rather than performance.

      What needs to change in culture is dismantling of false dichotomies, affirmation that behavior is context dependent, and dismissal of the inane overvaluation of masculinity with respect to femininity.

      • qublics [they/them,she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Links to the mentioned articles:
        http://www.xinhuanet.com/politics/2018-09/06/c_1123391309.htm
        http://ent.sina.com.cn/s/m/2018-09-07/doc-ihitesuz4688235.shtml

  • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    were hurting helping China’s national image.

    fixed the political messaging for you china, thank me later.

  • GruttePier [any]
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    4 years ago

    Love how the title implies that the Chinese government is somehow super concerned about this, when it is really just some editorial.

  • CallMeALibItsAllGood [none/use name]
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    This is embarrassing. If this was the US everyone would be all BEcaUsE caPITaLiSm

    Rootin for Xi is like rootin for Trump if you value human compassion

    • KiaKaha [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The top post in this thread is blaming capitalism lol.