• JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It's a double edged sword. I'm absolutely convinced after another failed Democratic presidency 2024 the right will win with Tom Cotton. It will be so fucking easy too, the stock market will be down cause of covid and nothing will fundamentaly change and shit will keep getting worse and it's the typical perfect storm for the right to swoop in talking about national debt again lol

    • SoylentSnake [he/him, they/them]
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      4 years ago

      I definitely am sympathetic to the narrative that Biden will pave the way for The Competent Fascist, whoever that ends up being (Cotton is certainly a contender, though he's a bit of a charisma black hole). Honestly the way I look at it is, the weight of our individual vote in a vacuum (i.e. assuming we're not campaigning or voting as part of a larger bloc) is way, way overstated in the discourse (especially from the liberal seats), so I try not to overthink or stress my decision too much. It helps that I live in a reeeeeeelatively blue state, though not necessarily the bluest.

      That said, the thing that tips me away from feeling comfortable even tactically voting for Biden is that, as far as I can tell, he is likely to be at least as bad as Trump on imperialism - and to my mind, capitalist imperialism (specifically from the US) is the greatest evil/cause of global suffering in the world today. It's not something I'm comfortable compromising on, even with something as low-to-no-impact as a single vote.

        • SoylentSnake [he/him, they/them]
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          4 years ago

          oh shit oh fuck

          Thesis: mask off brutal fascism

          Antithesis: well managed faux-woke neoliberalism

          Synthesis: Harris administration 🤮

      • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Right there with you. I live in CA so my vote for president has never mattered. It's just a shit fucking situation and we're all the losers no matter who wins

    • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Honest question: How is this not a slippery slope fallacy? I'm guessing it has to do with materialism.

      • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Just look at what happened after Obama. The rise of the tea party tapped into the very scenario I just described. The national debt is how the right tries to reclaim the idea they are somehow better for material conditions, because morons still believe national debt both matters and believe I trickle down economics. The economy is going to be in shambles for awhile, coronavirus is not going away anytime soon, if not actually get worse due to people's dying desire to go back to "normal." It's already happening, more recorded single day cases have happened than any other recorded time in the last week.

        Joe Biden is and will be much worse in imperialism and foreign policy. As I said, it's a double edged sword, no matter who wins the people still loose. They are both bad in similar and slightly different ways.