There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Palestinian families whose most prized possession is the key to the house in which they lived in before being forced out by bulldozers and bayonet to make way for the foundations of Israeli settlements. It is the dream of all those whose families were forced out by the Nabka (and other ethnic cleansing campaigns) to someday leave the open air concentration camps in which they are imprisoned, and return home.
I mention that anecdote because it might help explain why when people on the left criticize SocDems such as AOC for their insufficient support for the Palestinian cause. We don't do it because we are a bunch of children unsatisfied with anybody who minorly disagrees with us, but rather because the wretched state of Apartheid that plagues Palestinians today is so painful to be aware of, and it's extremely disappointing when representatives who ostensibly care about "justice" refuse to extend their support to ending an ongoing genocide.
"Two state solution" isn't a petty piece of word play. It feels like a declaration that Palestine won't get justice for the awful shit Israel has done on behalf of foreign powers and, recently America, since WW2. As if we live in a reality that Israel is the community that needs protecting and not the rural, indigenous people in Palestine who were thrust into a position to play politics in the longest running hotbed of cold war proxy and curious intelligence agencies of the modern era. I write off every other politician that does all that whacky shit like giving teachers a contract with a condition about not supporting BDS, or conflating anti-Israel rhetoric with anti-semitism (shout out to Corbyn). Right now, "what happens to Israel after people get justice?" sounds to me like "what about the small business owners after the revolution?" Like even if you could make the case, and sometimes you probably could, it's just not a priority for me and people like me. There are people suffering tragic loss and dying - more dramatically outside of the imperial core. I feel like AOC has a track record of not extending the kind of kindness I'd like to see a representative extend to people outside the US. It makes me nervous and sad because she is a wonderful advocate for women and a spearhead of necessary and just domestic policy.
I would hope the label social fascist would be a damnation of American foreign policy rather than decrying AOC as an irredeemable other. Israel is no good, folks.
I don't know, honestly - I hope someone who knows better could field this question. A quick Google search says that he's in favor of the two state solution.
Someone else in this thread makes note of Rashid Talib talking about Israel's right to exist and she probably has the best take I would want to hear from a politician in the US/UK. I only hear about Corbyn from memes and headlines, but I believe some of the anti-semitism claims come from him speaking of Palestinian rights similar to Talib. I don't know that for sure, so I wouldn't want to declare it so.___
There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Palestinian families whose most prized possession is the key to the house in which they lived in before being forced out by bulldozers and bayonet to make way for the foundations of Israeli settlements. It is the dream of all those whose families were forced out by the Nabka (and other ethnic cleansing campaigns) to someday leave the open air concentration camps in which they are imprisoned, and return home.
Entire Villages were destroyed, and totally erased from the land
I mention that anecdote because it might help explain why when people on the left criticize SocDems such as AOC for their insufficient support for the Palestinian cause. We don't do it because we are a bunch of children unsatisfied with anybody who minorly disagrees with us, but rather because the wretched state of Apartheid that plagues Palestinians today is so painful to be aware of, and it's extremely disappointing when representatives who ostensibly care about "justice" refuse to extend their support to ending an ongoing genocide.
"Two state solution" isn't a petty piece of word play. It feels like a declaration that Palestine won't get justice for the awful shit Israel has done on behalf of foreign powers and, recently America, since WW2. As if we live in a reality that Israel is the community that needs protecting and not the rural, indigenous people in Palestine who were thrust into a position to play politics in the longest running hotbed of cold war proxy and curious intelligence agencies of the modern era. I write off every other politician that does all that whacky shit like giving teachers a contract with a condition about not supporting BDS, or conflating anti-Israel rhetoric with anti-semitism (shout out to Corbyn). Right now, "what happens to Israel after people get justice?" sounds to me like "what about the small business owners after the revolution?" Like even if you could make the case, and sometimes you probably could, it's just not a priority for me and people like me. There are people suffering tragic loss and dying - more dramatically outside of the imperial core. I feel like AOC has a track record of not extending the kind of kindness I'd like to see a representative extend to people outside the US. It makes me nervous and sad because she is a wonderful advocate for women and a spearhead of necessary and just domestic policy.
I would hope the label social fascist would be a damnation of American foreign policy rather than decrying AOC as an irredeemable other. Israel is no good, folks.
Is AOC's position on Israel / Palestine materially different from that of Corbyn?
I don't know, honestly - I hope someone who knows better could field this question. A quick Google search says that he's in favor of the two state solution.
Someone else in this thread makes note of Rashid Talib talking about Israel's right to exist and she probably has the best take I would want to hear from a politician in the US/UK. I only hear about Corbyn from memes and headlines, but I believe some of the anti-semitism claims come from him speaking of Palestinian rights similar to Talib. I don't know that for sure, so I wouldn't want to declare it so.___
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