Cause it allowed social democracy to exist for as long as it did in various places, as they were formed out of concessions given by a bouigiouse in fear of communist uprisings.
This is BS. Those concessions that we got in the US and across the world happened before the rise of neoliberalism and the embracing of it.
Reagan and Thatcher were both elected when the USSR was still in place and they are when collapse truly begins. The existence of the USSR had absolutely nothing to do with Reagan pushing for deregulation of the banks and corporations and the 1981 Tax Act, both of which led to allowing corporate lobbying in government to become powerful.
There was no fear of communist uprisings in the west cause they had successfully squashed it back in the 1950s and 1960s. The last thing left was our unions and entitlements which have been slowly chipped away since the 1980s.
Yes, but they could do what they did in the 70-80 because they had a a whole generation of totally red-scared people who trusted TheSystem. Those people didn't even know they lived in a "social democracy", less why and how they had their rights and consesions from the capitalists, so when the television started to tell them they needed to lose their civil/worker's rights in order to be more free or some bullshit like that, they loved it.
so when the television started to tell them they needed to lose their civil/worker’s rights in order to be more free or some bullshit like that, they loved it.
I take it you don't talk to older working class people much if you believe this nonsense that the mere existence of the USSR magically led to workers rights in the US.
The US used to have strong labour rights and unions. The south was a hotbed for labour activism back in the 1950s and on up, which led to states like Alabama pushing for Right To Work laws to go after unions back in the 50s and 60s. The midwest also had their fair share of unions. These people fought the Reagan era Republicans and later on the New Democrats (Clintons) when they were having their unions and workers rights destroyed.
There were strikes all through the 80s and even in the 90s as the working class was fighting against the politicians from both parties that were working to destroy their workers rights and unions. American workers aren't as stupid as most of you on this site seem to think. They've been beaten down over decades of having the system and both parties working against them and now it's to a point where most laws prevent strikes and they are worked to death with low wages to the point they really can't do anything.
Yes, sorry. I was thinking about the people who did voted and supported Reagan/Bush/Clinton, which sadly weren't only bougies.
And even here in south america, the periphery of the empire, that was shock-doctrine-neoliberalized, we sadly have a large part of working class/very small bougies that parrot Chicago boys' bullshit, while they still benefit of the last remnants of welfare state and cry "muh postmodern marxists under my bed want to take my toothbrush and give it to a brown(er) person"
It's also turning out to not be great for capitalism and the USA
why would the USSR existing make capitalism stronger?
Cause it allowed social democracy to exist for as long as it did in various places, as they were formed out of concessions given by a bouigiouse in fear of communist uprisings.
This is BS. Those concessions that we got in the US and across the world happened before the rise of neoliberalism and the embracing of it.
Reagan and Thatcher were both elected when the USSR was still in place and they are when collapse truly begins. The existence of the USSR had absolutely nothing to do with Reagan pushing for deregulation of the banks and corporations and the 1981 Tax Act, both of which led to allowing corporate lobbying in government to become powerful.
There was no fear of communist uprisings in the west cause they had successfully squashed it back in the 1950s and 1960s. The last thing left was our unions and entitlements which have been slowly chipped away since the 1980s.
Yes, but they could do what they did in the 70-80 because they had a a whole generation of totally red-scared people who trusted TheSystem. Those people didn't even know they lived in a "social democracy", less why and how they had their rights and consesions from the capitalists, so when the television started to tell them they needed to lose their civil/worker's rights in order to be more free or some bullshit like that, they loved it.
I take it you don't talk to older working class people much if you believe this nonsense that the mere existence of the USSR magically led to workers rights in the US.
The US used to have strong labour rights and unions. The south was a hotbed for labour activism back in the 1950s and on up, which led to states like Alabama pushing for Right To Work laws to go after unions back in the 50s and 60s. The midwest also had their fair share of unions. These people fought the Reagan era Republicans and later on the New Democrats (Clintons) when they were having their unions and workers rights destroyed.
There were strikes all through the 80s and even in the 90s as the working class was fighting against the politicians from both parties that were working to destroy their workers rights and unions. American workers aren't as stupid as most of you on this site seem to think. They've been beaten down over decades of having the system and both parties working against them and now it's to a point where most laws prevent strikes and they are worked to death with low wages to the point they really can't do anything.
Yes, sorry. I was thinking about the people who did voted and supported Reagan/Bush/Clinton, which sadly weren't only bougies.
And even here in south america, the periphery of the empire, that was shock-doctrine-neoliberalized, we sadly have a large part of working class/very small bougies that parrot Chicago boys' bullshit, while they still benefit of the last remnants of welfare state and cry "muh postmodern marxists under my bed want to take my toothbrush and give it to a brown(er) person"
You're now imagining a world in which the US is collapsing to neoliberalism while both the USSR and China watch it happen.
Welcome to reality - the US is collapsing to neoliberalism.
Boogieman