It's also turning out to not be great for capitalism and the USA
Cause it allowed social democracy to exist for as long as it did in various places, as they were formed out of concessions given by a bouigiouse in fear of communist uprisings.
This is BS. Those concessions that we got in the US and across the world happened before the rise of neoliberalism and the embracing of it.
Reagan and Thatcher were both elected when the USSR was still in place and they are when collapse truly begins. The existence of the USSR had absolutely nothing to do with Reagan pushing for deregulation of the banks and corporations and the 1981 Tax Act, both of which led to allowing corporate lobbying in government to become powerful.
There was no fear of communist uprisings in the west cause they had successfully squashed it back in the 1950s and 1960s. The last thing left was our unions and entitlements which have been slowly chipped away since the 1980s.
Yes, but they could do what they did in the 70-80 because they had a a whole generation of totally red-scared people who trusted TheSystem. Those people didn't even know they lived in a "social democracy", less why and how they had their rights and consesions from the capitalists, so when the television started to tell them they needed to lose their civil/worker's rights in order to be more free or some bullshit like that, they loved it.
so when the television started to tell them they needed to lose their civil/worker’s rights in order to be more free or some bullshit like that, they loved it.
I take it you don't talk to older working class people much if you believe this nonsense that the mere existence of the USSR magically led to workers rights in the US.
The US used to have strong labour rights and unions. The south was a hotbed for labour activism back in the 1950s and on up, which led to states like Alabama pushing for Right To Work laws to go after unions back in the 50s and 60s. The midwest also had their fair share of unions. These people fought the Reagan era Republicans and later on the New Democrats (Clintons) when they were having their unions and workers rights destroyed.
There were strikes all through the 80s and even in the 90s as the working class was fighting against the politicians from both parties that were working to destroy their workers rights and unions. American workers aren't as stupid as most of you on this site seem to think. They've been beaten down over decades of having the system and both parties working against them and now it's to a point where most laws prevent strikes and they are worked to death with low wages to the point they really can't do anything.
Yes, sorry. I was thinking about the people who did voted and supported Reagan/Bush/Clinton, which sadly weren't only bougies.
And even here in south america, the periphery of the empire, that was shock-doctrine-neoliberalized, we sadly have a large part of working class/very small bougies that parrot Chicago boys' bullshit, while they still benefit of the last remnants of welfare state and cry "muh postmodern marxists under my bed want to take my toothbrush and give it to a brown(er) person"
You're now imagining a world in which the US is collapsing to neoliberalism while both the USSR and China watch it happen.
You’re now imagining a world in which the US is collapsing to neoliberalism while both the USSR and China watch it happen.
Welcome to reality - the US is collapsing to neoliberalism.
This is huge. Full support to the women of Poland who are fighting like hell at the moment.
Damn. Who could have foreseen that anti-communism fomented and materially supported by the CIA and catholic church could have led to this?
Young women are going to leave Poland for sane EU countries and Poland will lead the world in incels.
The Western incels migrating there for a polish tradwife are going to wind up disappointed.
I think the bourgeois vampires over here are going to see this and take note, and the take that "The 6-3 Supreme Court won't actually ban abortion but just uphold state-level measures to make it de facto banned" is accurate
Only one approved clinic in the whole state sieged by psychos 24/7 and a waiting period of two weeks, with daily cheks up and three independent certificates of psychological wellness. Yeeaah
Inb4 americans come and try to eyplain that this is a cia funded color re... ah shit, late again.
it's about being pro-american interests, not right or left - putin is a right wing cunt and america would still love a color revolussia
oh you edited it lol
Because people wanting better living conditions is bad because american interests
And supporting popular movements for reform in russia is bad when it might aling with US interests?
it obviously depends on the nature of the protests and how the dialectically opposed forces are interacting, there's no "formula" for this
the 2013 protests in brazil were initially good in spite of my country being under a slightly anti-imperialist government, because their demands were reasonable, their targets were correct, and the PT needed to get their shit straight
but later on, with the repression coming from the PT centrists, our left failed to maintain hegemony, the protests were ultimately overtaken by US-funded ngos and think tanks, a lot of astroturfed shit popped up everywhere, and the continuation of the protests, which were initially good and based, ended up helping set the conditions for the 2016 coup
i have no protest fetish and no binary understanding of them either - despite how popular they might be, sometimes they're good and legit, sometimes they're astroturfed to shit and bad, with numerous possibilities in-between, and their nature changes as the forces involved interact with each other
Yes, Poland has consistently been the most pro-US country in continental Europe since before the Iraq invasion. I'd say they come right after the UK as far as unwavering support goes. Keep in mind that the historic perspective of Poland leads to certain ... concerns about being sandwiched between Germany and Russia, so they're eager to ally with the US. Trump has just recently decided to move a sizeable chunk of the US military stationed in Germany over there, too. They are also ridiculously lib on economic matters, the most leftwing party in their parliament are libertarians or something like that. It makes absolutely zero sense for the US to stage a colour revolution in Poland. Literally any other country in the EU would make more sense.
Lukashenko is a centrist at best too, it doesn't matter much.
People want to get rid of a monarch? CIA! SINOPHOBIC WESTERN WHITE IMPERIALIST! :agony-4horsemen:
the right-wing coups of 1989 were an unmitigated catastrophe for the world
Modern Western Leftists would be supporting them if they lived then
Mandatory if the procreation act wasn't performed in the prescence of a political comisar and/or a picture of Stalin
what if i get my buddy a fake mustache and have him pretend to be stalin? does that count too or is that fruad?
Very liberally applied. Especially important is there was zero social stigma attached to it so it was simply a medical procedure just like pulling a tooth. Obviously the emotional turmoil on the part of women deciding to have the abortion was still present, simply because it is such an emotionally charged decision in any context just by its nature. All in all abortion was more widely used than in the West but nowhere near the caricature levels conservatives would have you believe, a huge factor being that it was actually super easy to have a child and give it a good life. The state did everything to make having children a joy (fully paid maternity leave of 112 days, partially paid maternity leave till 18 months and job place retainment for 3 years - all claimed together, free 24 hour kindergarten, free medical care, free childcare classes pre-birth, free enrolment of children into all sorts of extracurricular activities, city planning so schools, shops, hospitals within max 15 minutes walking distance, etc.) while also making it easy for women to undo unwanted pregnancies. As it should be.
Edited details about maternity leave above.
Here are some links: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.iipf.org/papers/Malkova-The_Effect_of_Paid_Parental_Leave_and_a_Child_Benefit-126.pdf%3Fdb_name%3DIIPF69%26paper_id%3D463&ved=2ahUKEwiRi8vJheLsAhVCC-wKHcEcDMIQFjACegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw3PK6BsXN5rbhyjzJU06FAp
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://iussp2009.princeton.edu/papers/92034&ved=2ahUKEwiT1JTAhuLsAhURnBQKHWo2AcwQFjAEegQIDxAB&usg=AOvVaw36vIHY02baPGcVDtA5eDDy
Just added links and edited the maternity leave details. The important thing to note is that despite greater and greater erosion of social services in the West, in the USSR workers were getting better and better protection and benefits with each passing year up until Gorbachev started his liberalisation course.
To add on to what Rev said, I was watching a recent Russian TV series set right around Stalin's death (Оттепель), and was struck by how the two abortions on the show were handled. For the first, everyone involved was extremely matter-of-fact about it, and the big "drama" of the scene was that the woman's ex husband promised he'd pick her up by car after the procedure, but forgot about it and she had to go by metro. In the second, they showed the woman go to the doctor for a checkup (she's kinda young and naive and didn't get that she was pregnant), and the nurses slut shamed her a bit for getting knocked up without being married, but were extremely casual about asking if she wanted to get an abortion. Obviously this is just a TV series, but watching it I realized I couldn't really remember any American TV series handling abortion so matter of factly - especially one set in the 50s.
Imma laugh if this ends up in the Catholic Church getting absolutely yeeted.
This makes me feel bad for calling all Poles Catholic Nazi freaks
Poland is one of the most pro USA countries in the world, they don't need it.
Poland literally signed away their sovereignty to USA
They signed a pact with USA which makes them into a vassel state... The kind Japan signed after losing a war to US
https://diplomaticpost.co.uk/index.php/2020/09/10/poland-signs-humiliating-surrender-agreement-with-the-us/
