if the dreaded second american civil war does break out, its not going to be socialism v fascism like so many fascists and leftists seem to believe. This conflict, much like the revolutionary war, will be a bourgeois revolution. The only real sides to this fight will be military and some police loyal to biden and small parts of the military and untrained and underequipped Trump militias. This is mostly if biden wins by a large margin, if trump decides to cheat the election, libs will probably end up conceding to him and shurgging their shoulders. any kind of armed socialist movement will do nothing but draw the ire of normal people and intelligence agencies, which is like exactly what you don't want to happen if you want to build a real left wing movement in the united states. idk moral of the story: who the fuck cares, fighting for biden is about the same as voting for him. use whatever crisis that arises to advocate for communism, or you can join the biden militias/national guard if u wanna dome nazis idc

  • 420clownpeen [they/them,any]
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    4 years ago

    Damned optimistic of you to think a civil conflict in the US would be the kind of affair where there's only two sides, or that everyone would have the luxury of choosing to avoid it all. That said, I still tend to think the election won't quite be the spark people expect. My bet is still on a scattered uptick of right wing violence which dies down in under a month.

    • Qelp [they/them,she/her]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      the majority of americans have two-sided political beliefs, therefore there will be two sides. does it matter if theres actually like different groups like boogs and fash who are trying capitalize on violence? no it won't, because libs will see fash and boogs on trump's side due to the fact that fash and boogs are almost identical to trump supporters from an outside perspective. same thing with leftists and dems, if leftists start doing terror attacks, republicans will just blame it on the dems like they have for the past 4 years and escalate against them due to the fact that they literally see no difference between anarchists, communists, and shitlibs.

      • 420clownpeen [they/them,any]
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        4 years ago

        Americans only get to have the mentality that everything is a bipolar conflict because most of us are insulated from conflicts at any given time. If things really deteriorate, there'll be more local power plays among more local factions, and people who live around them will need to start navigating that. It might end up being a colder (like cold vs. hot war), bipolar conflict, but I don't think that'll be because people simply think that into existence.

      • 420clownpeen [they/them,any]
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        4 years ago

        I mean, there'll be protests, though I don't know if they can even get post-George Floyd numbers out there in DC. Maybe there'll even be some goobers who publicly get caught by the feds with some harebrained assassination plot. But I think the only thing that would have an interesting outcome is if some of the groups tasked with defending the event defect, like cops refusing to maintain the perimeter. No idea what the chances of that are though.