No no no. It hit 10k from the 1000 members they received yesterday. They're at 15k this morning!
Campaigning from the group on the basis of the entirety of the UK going into lockdown and getting furlough that Wales was told was impossible in negotiations with England not more than a few weeks ago. The Welsh are about as pissed off as the North are and "fuck it we shouldn't be listening to these English bastards" is spreading.
The movement has benefitted heavily from covid conditions because the devolved governments have control of how things are implemented within their country. So the Welsh are currently having to actually pay attention to their government on a daily basis with changing rules and conditions. This is resulting in a significantly large number of people saying "Hey, we could just govern ourselves couldn't we?" The ball is now rolling and any and all agitative events(which are a weekly occurrence right now) will cause it to grow.
Well that's some good stuff right there. I can only hope Scotland's possible independence fuels both Northern Ireland and Wales to finally break off England.
The English bourgeoisie dont care the maintain the union anymore it seems
Capital will quite happily dispense of nationalism if it no longer serves its interests.
Yes I think that's pretty much it.
English bourgeoisie is almost exclusively based in London and made up of financiers whose money is not connected to NI, Wales or Scotland anymore. The money is almost entirely in weapons and international banking loans, I assume a lot of that is tied up in Africa and the Middle East.
Agreed, but more than that this a fire sale, a national asset stripping project that's been 30 years in the making and they finally have all the shocks they want (Brexit, COVID, unrest) to really get stuck in.
From the shell companies given billions in public money with no staff or experience, to the remaking of the economy through COVID restrictions targeted to eliminate competition for big donors, to the punitive micro-regional lockdowns seemingly based upon property development, this is wealth consolidation pure and simple. Just on a scale we've never seen before in our own borders. The vultures coming home to roost.
it’s because capital no longer has borders so it matters less.
The thing is England is going to be confused as to why this is happening, even after years of treating wales, Scotland and NI like vassal states
No I dont think so, English people know deep down that all these nations are colonies of theirs. They just pretend that they are equal partners because they like nationalism too much.
As to why what is happening? A pro-independence campaign group gaining a few thousand members?
There was an election in Wales just a few months ago, and the Tories got one of their best ever results, while Plaid (the main pro-independence party) fell below 10% for the first time in decades. There would need to be a massive surge in support for both independence and pro-independence parties for it to even become a realistic possibility, and there really isn't much sign of either.
I know Britain is a shithole country and we deserve all the criticism we get, but it's incredibly cringe when American lefties pick out random regions and start white knighting them on the assumption that everyone there is an oppressed socialist. It's also kind of insulting to many of Britain's actual former colonies to keep acting as if Scotland and Wales are being treated the same as they were. Like, Scottish and Welsh people can vote, and they don't have a history of massive man-made famines, and they have autonomous governments that aren't controlled by minority settler populations.
I think you're being a bit harsh on them. By no means do I mean this is happening immediately, but movements are movements. What has begun now won't stop unless serious reorganisation of the current contradictions causing this movement occurs. I do not see the British bourgeoisie taking that action because they simply have no reason to, Wales doesn't hold any value to them.
This movement will grow and it will eventually blossom into a majority for independence as has occurred with Scotland now. It will take several years but you can basically call this right now, there is zero incentive for them to resolve the social conditions causing the movement to grow therefore grow it shall.
I wouldn’t liken them to colonies, you are right it is certainly not that bad.
I was mainly thinking that even though never voting anywhere near majority conservative these countries have to suffer many laws and changes imposed on them from England by tory controlled Westminster, despite their devolved governments.
I can understand how having poverty imposed on them by a government that the country did not vote for could fuel an independence movement. Seeing as things aren’t going to change too soon I can only see this movement gaining more traction in wales.
As for the labour losses last election, the situation was similar to the north where the main swing was lab to bxp resulting in more Tory seats. It was triggered by labours abandoning of Brexit. Whether this translates into a long term movement of Wales towards more reactionary politics, in my opinion, still remains to be seen.
england is insane trying to have closer ties with the US rather than with europe.
Yep, hope the Brits like their chlorinated chicken and salad with a side of Roundup.
Fuck Mercia all my homies hate Mercia.
Real Heptarchy hours, who up?
If you don't play football as a team then you aren't a real country.
but have you considered: the amerikkkan football is a handegg
